alright so my girlfriend and i were wanting to trip but our town is a little on the lame side and we cannot acquire lsd or shrooms. i have 2ce but my girl doesnt like the substance at all. so in the rc market what would be a good replacement that was more like shrooms or lsd? also, i'm in the US so i gotta watch out with the analog act also.... damn the man
Shrooms and LSD are kind of different as far as hallucinogens go. 2ce is about as close to LSD as you're going to get with rc's imo. 4-aco-dmt is a bit like shrooms, maybe check that out. 2ct2 is a pretty heavy experience but you got to dose high.
yah i understand the trips are different compared to shrooms and lsd. its just she actually liked those. she didnt like how auditory the 2ce came out to be. also my scale sucked at the time and are first dose was way to high. i have a better scale now but she's tainted on that 2ce.see the 4 aco dmt is what i was thinking about. i just didnt know if it fell under the analog act. i have had a hell of a time getting anything but trip reports on it. some people tell me its psilocin... but others say it degrades into psilocin.. i dont know haha. i guess i will just do some research
4-aco-DMT is vaguely like 'shrooms. I find 5-meo-MIPT to be very LSD like, on the euphoric side of things.
Psilocin= 4-ho-dmt I've heard 4-ac0-dmt degrades into psilocin as well but supposedly feels slightly different still. It doesn't carry all the other alkaloids shrooms do so it feels lighter on the body to me but both times I've done it I have been reminded of mushrooms.
thank you for clearing that up for me, i think i will go with the 4 aco as i do not have a vendor for the other. gotta work with what i have. i havent bought any rc's in a long time... so long that wal mart is shut down lol. its all good though, i can sift my way through all the shit and find what i need
i really loved foxy when it was legal. went to town on that stuff before it got banned. a chemist at the university in my town was cooking that shit up left and right. i have never had moxy though. been wanting to try that one.. havent found a source for it though so it will have to wait.
i recommend the 4-aco. its a fun little guy. iv given it to a bunch of my friends (who were everything from very experienced psychonauts to people tripping for their very first time) all with positive feedback and i myself like it quite a bit. give it a look
4-AcO-DMT. Lol. Closest any RC is to either Shrooms or LSD, since there is no LSD RC, but 4-AcO-DMT is basically the shroom RC.
I'm not qualified to comment on 2c-p but 2c-e and 2c-t-7 are apparently the closest phenethylamines to LSD.
I know I am the exception, but I gotta say it. 2CE made me purge harder than I ever have on LSD or even pharmahuasca. It was even worse than Mescaline. And it opened an evil, dark little door in my mind that reminds me of demon alcohol. LSD has sent me on some pretty wild rides over the decades (admittedly, I took a couple off) but it never opened that ethyl-group door in my head the way 2CE did. I have strong suspicions that the ethyl-group in 2CE hits me like ethanol (booze). Yuck.
frying squirrel made a good point in my 2C-iP thread. an isopropyl group sticking off the PEA skeleton (2C-iP) is way different than one on the nitrogen atom of a tryptamine (DiPT). so i would say that the ethyl group at the 4 position in 2C-E has very little in common with EtOH.
I have only one experience with 2cp, If I really had to compare it to anything I'd say mescaline. It lacked the inner warmth and ecstatic headspace of mescaline to me though. I can't say anything stood out about that first 2cp trip but I saw enough potential there to be willing to try it again.
