LSD as a tool

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Ancient One, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. Ancient One

    Ancient One Member

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    Setting aside "getting high" "escaping reality" or the like, in what areas do people feel that LSD augments, enhances, or betters humanity? Does it increase cognitive abilities like math science programming etc, or do people believe more in it's creative, spiritual, or metaphysical potential? If you have a detailed opinion, do you believe LSD's benefits are psychedelic benefits only, or specific to LSD only? People constantly speak of receiving some universal download from LSD, but never are such epiphanies detailed for the general benefit. Is there a difference between feeling augmented and enlightened, and actually being augmented and enlightened?
     
  2. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    For me i would say the later. Once i lost sense of myself and found that i was part of something much bigger it made me look at things a different way, to make a long story short, its love. anyone else with that?

    I believe much more can be gained from acid and mushrooms(those are the only to psychs i do) than just visuals and a good time, but there is nothing wrong with just visuals and a good time, depends on set and setting. From my experience one can gain the same benefits from both mushrooms and LSD, so i would say that its not just specific to LSD. However i have found mushrooms to bring a greater sense of enlightenment.

    IMO=
    Yes, feelings are temporary, so if you just feel "augmented and enlightened" it may not stick with you. Where as being "augmented and enlightened" is a state of being, if that makes sense.

    I say it alot, its a personal journey and whatever psychs bring to you is what you were meant to receive.
     
  3. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    LSD assists me in guitar playing, it can be seen as a tool in that way. I almost always discover new patterns or a way to restructure an old pattern which can make a world of difference when dealing with only 7 notes.

    If you are close with someone it can allow for communication to flow more easily and deeply and lead to topics/issues/praises that may not have been spoken otherwise. For whatever reason that dissolved reality barrier and the sense of being in the moment seems to help one release those bottled up ideas and feelings.

    These effects I just mentioned can certainly transcend past the LSD experience into everyday life and are also not strictly LSD related, other psychedelics can produce such effects.


    As far as the feeling augmented and enlightened and being augmented and enlightened well that seems like a difficult question to answer, it suggests some criteria needs to be met which will probably vary on individual interpretation.
     
  4. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    LSD-25
    The Psycho/Spiritual Swiss Army Knife of psychedelics. ;)
     
  5. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

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    ^Haha yeessss
     
  6. Ancient One

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    So, what is unique to LSD? What does it offer that other psychedelics lack? And which profession or area of the human mind stands to benefit the most from LSD? The psychedelic contribution seems the antithesis of the politico military industrial consumer world (aka "Zion"), (unity, one-ness, colony level ( school of fish) level of society vs top down hierarchical dominance of oligarchical organizational perspective; so is a paradigm ultimately what LSD offers? Regardless of belief or reality, isn't the central concept motivation? Belief makes something real enough for people to take it for granted, sufficient to negate any previous system of organization, or "reality"? Is LSD's ultimate lesson that nothing is real, or that reality is ultimately a function of belief? Are perception and belief the king and queen of the human mind?
     
  7. Mr.Writer

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    Aside from things that LSD shares with other psychedelics (sensations, perceptions, ego effects, etc), LSD has a very unique effect I can only describe as "mind expansion". This is not the "changed mindspace" common to all psychedelics, this is specific to lysergic acid diethylamide. It seems to magnify space, time, and self, to allow more room for exploration, with more time for exploration, with more stuff to explore, just a holistic explosion of data to digest and ability to digest data, and what follows is like 10 years of living in 10 hours.


    The benefits of LSD are upon the basal layer of consciousness, from there, it springs to all facets of life which the consciousness will allow it to spring to.

    It can be summarized into a paradigm, though it is ultimately pre-thought, so you must down-translate it into a conceptual framework. LSD is not intellectual, but we are.

    My friend says the singular effect LSD has on him is to motivate him beyond his capacity to work. I find it does this too during primary effects, I suddenly am filled with the overwhelming urge to do a universe worth of stuff all at once. I do not read into this too much, unlike my friend, and see it just as a kind of psychic stimulant effect.

    I would say LSD's ultimate lesson is to show you the reality that lies before you have time to form a belief about it. It is pre-thought. It slips between the synapses, between the lines, between the words of cognition, and plunges your awareness and witness into the Visceral. LSD is chemical visceralness.

    Perception and belief are dominant forces in the mind for sure, this is why LSD is so educational, because it is so non-intellectual, so not related to belief and perception, even though it may work in those domains and certainly influences them regardless. But the "LSDness" is not in the realm of belief, it is in the realm from whence belief comes after, it is there where there is nothing and no one and no reason to form a belief, only to see.
     
  8. acid_tripz222

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    i think it does the exact opposite. take sid barrett for example: former lead singer of pink floyd. his brain cells got fried from doing too much lsd. he got cut from the band for that. now he's messed up as fuck.
     
  9. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    WTF!? No he is dead as fuck!

    He died in 2006, have some respect, the man may have been alittle off but he contributed a lot to music in the late 60's.

    And David Gilmour(you should know who he is if your going to post such things about barret) was quoted as saying -

    "In my opinion, his nervous breakdown would have happened anyway. It was a deep-rooted thing. But I'll say the psychedelic experience might well have acted as a catalyst. Still, I just don't think he could deal with the vision of success and all the things that went with it"

    ^^Thats common knowledge about LSD ^^

    I can't believe you posted that shit!
     
  10. Mr.Writer

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    LSD does not "fry brain cells" lol. He had a nervous breakdown. Could happen to anyone, psychedelics or not. LSD is non-toxic and one of the safest compounds known to man. Please stop spreading misinformation, especially considering you are a psychedelic user.
     
  11. Desos

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    i remember one time i dosed up in the middle of a semester in which i was taking a calculus class. it totally changed the way i look at math. but now i can understand calculus alot better! lol. i havn't done any math in almost a year now though. would probably take me a while to get back up to speed.

    it was pretty crazy. after my trip calculus just made SO MUCH SENSE, it was like putting together an easy puzzle.

    i think, lsd can act as a tool to do just about whatever our minds put it to. it acts a catalyst and amplifier to what is already there. therefore, it can be used as a tool in any kind of way. although, bringing back 'augmentation and enlightenment' from the experience is more of a matter of integrating your experiences. which, imo, is an integral part of the psychedelic experience -- integration.

    although, i do think that lsd functions within certain boundaries. like, whenever i find myself misusing lsd, it will slap me around a little bit.
     
  12. andallthatstocome

    andallthatstocome not a squid

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    I have never taken LSD myself, but I do have experience with other entheogenic hallucinogens, and in my experience, such compounds are useful for breaking down internalized mental barriers. this ability of psychedelics in general can be useful in any field, if used responsibly. for example, a recent shroom trip helped me outline the mechanics of a novel solution to the mind-body problem. I haven't actually fleshed out this solution yet, but perhaps my first acid trip will do that for me lol.

    the big thing is introsperction, and granting the ability to see the outside world as also being inside yourself.
     
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