Whats your position on flag burning?

Aren't they both just symbols of belief? And more often than not, people expect OTHERS to live their lives by their interpretation of those books more than they do themselves. Please show me one person who 'lives?' their afterlife. What occurs after life is called death.

It's immaterial to think of what George Washington would do, but more important to think of what you yourself should do upon waking each day. But since you brought it up, it's most likely George Washington would be assembling an army were he alive today.

 

should've said 'prepares for', sorry

as far as the rest of it goes, there is a vast difference between religious feeling and patriotism, despite the sad mutual abuse of them by today's religiopoliticians

though a non-believer, i can understand why a person might believe, there are barely explainable wonders in life and the universe

patriotism i have never understood

 

No, It is simply a form of civil disobedience. It harms no one and sends the message "this person is dissatisfied with what this flag seems to represent". Burning a flag as a form of protest is meaningless unless the person doing the burning at one time 'stood behind' that flag.
It shouldn't be a stretch for anyone to realize, flags (such as the American flag) are martial in origin. It's a symbol of nation and state, war and conquest, dominance and slavery. In essence nationalistic flags represent violence.
If there were an actual flag of the people and someone were to protest by burning that flag, I would have a problem with that...


ZW

 

That does make more sense, if you really believe.

Does anyone besides me get the feeling that the U.S. is not a homogeneous society?

 

it hasn't been one ever

 

Kind of sounds like burning the flag could be considered an act of self defense.
Would you consider shooting the flag to be an act of violence? Maybe it's time to permanently kill the U.S. flag and disband the central government completely.

 

How would you feel, If I burned a washcloth?

How would you feel, If I burned a BIG washcloth?

How would you feel, If I burned a Big washcloth, that was blue?

How would you feel, If I burned a BIG washcloth, that was blue, red, and white?

How would you feel, If I burned a BIG washcloth, that was blue, red, and white, stripes and stars stitched on?

How would you feel If I put the washcloth on a pole and put the pole in the ground?

How would you feel If I put a red, white and blue BIG washcloth on a pole, set the cloth n fire, then ran it up the pole and gave the cloth the finger as I said "Death To Mexico?

How would you FEEL???

WOuld that be too violent?

What? the fuck?

Does anyone know what happen to chocolate jelly? The chinese store down the street doesnt sell it anymore..

 

If you were doing so as a public display, I would simply feel that you were quite stupid.
Chocolate jelly? Make your own, it's quite simple.

 

In 1991 the Soviet Union voted to dissolve itself, and the results have been for the most part positive.

In several postings here I've advocated that the U.S. do the same thing, since for twenty or thirty years now the U.S. has been the main source of aggressive warmaking on the planet. Fifty separate states would be far easier to live with. Question is, what to do with the nukes. Do we want to take a chance on some portion of them winding up in the hands of Mississippi or Texas?

As for flag-burning itself, if you do it, be prepared for a streetfight from the locals at the very least.

 

i'd suggest just lowering a public flag to half-mast . itsa
sign of mourning and there's plenty of that to be done without
pause . some flagpoles and flag-rigging tho are designed for
security , that is , the rope and lashing is not exposed . what's
to do then but shoot a flaming arrow into the sky ?

one old vet i knew just had his personal flagpole in the yard
surrounded by petunias . one day i passed by and the flag
had been lowered to half-mast . it was like that for two years and
then he died .

 

But not all positive?

The nukes could easily be disposed of on the open market, many countries would love to nuke up. I wouldn't worry so much about Texas or Mississippi, but might worry more about what would happen in the more densely populated cities in California, New York, and Illinois.

I've not noticed that happening much, if at all, but recognize the fact that extremists exist on both sides of the political spectrum.

 

That might be appropriate if those burning the flag were pro-America, but they are instead anti-America and would like to see a change in the form of government to something much different than what the Constitution provides or makes available to them.

 

Burn em if u got em!
a national flag to me is just a symbol of a certain nation state. if you are unhappy with that state burning the flag is a perfectly OK way of protesting against said state.
hate yer state? then burn them flags!

 

Wouldn't burning some politicians make the message intended more understandable? Or how about burning the Declaration of Independence and/or the U.S. Constitution as the flag by itself is meaningless without the documents it stands for.

 

I prefer to wipe my but with them!

 

but what?

 

As long as the flame doesn't physically hurt anyone it's obviously a person right to burn the flag, but people may just be less likely to listen to what you have to say if you do it. You'll just scare people. So not the best form of protest. And obviously it's anti-american by definition...you're burning the flag of America.

 

How about each person creating their own flag.

 

For a minute I thought you suggested selling nuclear weapons on the open market to any of "many countries". My eyes must be playing tricks on me this morning.

Think about Ivory Coast, Zaire, Rwanda, Iran or Vietnam having nuclear weapons. North Korea is bad enough.

You're also not worried about the states of Texas and Mississippi having the bomb? Any idea where U.S. Presidents Johnson, G.H. Bush and G.W. Bush came from, all of whom involved their country in foreign wars? Any idea what the human rights records in these states are like?