Hey folks, Well, I purchased 50 grams of some Super Indo from a sponsor. I also received 5 free grams of some Commercial Bali kratom. I have absolutely no experience with opiates, but I have heard about kratom as being quite nice and worthwhile. Anyway, I took about 3.5 grams of Super Indo powder and simmered it in 1.5 cups of water for about 15 minutes. I then strained it with a muslin bag, waited for the extract to cool, and then swigged it down. It smelled really good when it was simmering, but it tasted really bitter; nothing I couldn't manage though. This was at about 10 pm. I forgot to mention that I had consumed some kava about an hour and a half earlier. I waited about 20 minutes, and then one of my good friends called me up asking if we wanted to go to the bar. I was thinking maybe I shouldn't considering that I had just consumed something I had never tried before; also, I have read reports of nausea, vomiting, and such. Well, the buddy I went down the bar with said he would be willing to bounce if I didn't feel well. We arrived at the bar and I started to feel the effects. I just felt a nice buzz and quite good. I also felt very energetic and ready to do something, so I was glad I had gone to the bar. I had 2 beers while I was at the bar; I didn't feel like I really needed much after the kratom. I didn't feel nauseous at all or I would not have been consuming alcohol. After about 2 hours, I was feeling fan fucking tastic. I then had a bunch of friends over. I had one more beer. I then smoked a bowl of some super dank bud with a bunch of friends; it was probably split between 4 of us. I had the most given my tolerance. Holy shit! Kratom and bud go so well together. I felt high, but not sluggish or foggy. I just felt amazing -not tired at all. I then smoked some cigarettes while watching the lunar eclipse commence; it was so incredible. The first time in 400 years that a lunar eclipse has occurred during the winter solstice. It was beautiful. It was fairly cold outside, so many of my friends chilled inside and only checked on the eclipse occasionally. I was hooked to the moon. I relaxed out on the ground for a bit watching the moon, and this is when shit got a little weird. I was seriously tripping for a little while. I was seeing pretty clear and apparent CEVs. I have tripped on mushrooms many a time, so I am quite familiar with CEVs. What was that about? I thought kratom was an opiate, not a psychedelic. I have maybe sorta tripped on weed if I smoke a shit ton, but I hadn't even smoked all that much. All in all, the kratom experience had me up until about 4 am. I woke up at about noon today, with no hangover or any ill feeling. I felt energized, more social, buzzed, articulate, and fucking fantastic. It was well worth the 25 dollars for 55 grams. I plan on trying it again soon. BUT... Questions... 1. If I were to take kratom again today at the same dose, would the effects be greatly diminished relative to yesterday's experience? 2. How many successive days taking kratom would induce some sort of addiction with noticeable withdrawals? 3. Is Super Indo a particularly potent strain? I want to try the Bali Commercial to compare. Supposedly the Super Indo was taken from wild specimens, with stems included, increasing the potency per gram of material. 4. Do you think I could handle 6 grams or so without any nausea and such? I am really concerned about the addictive nature of this stuff. Thanks
I love kratom and weed and sounds like you had an amazing evening. I can only answer question 1 really. There will be some tolerance but you should definitely still feel some effects if you take it today. You had a mix of different stuff yesterday which may have boosted the effects a bit (I've never had cevs on kratom for instance) so you may want to have some bud or beer or something on hand. I have done it 3 consecutive days without a real withdrawal except maybe feeling slightly sluggish.