Abusing welfare... yes or no?

Wow.. Im sorry.. Didnt you read my other posts where I SAID, IM NOT GOING TO REPORT HER for various of reasons (she is an ok friend, i dont need to put that effort into making her life worse - in the end time will catch with her)

Now Im sorry, no Im not rat and No in fucking way Im not jealous of her earnings haha... Now thats funny, since I know what she makes and I can do 2-2.5x more without extra help.
The only concern I have is people who dont need welfare shouldnt take it.

 

Yes, thank you.. many people were missing the point that she is working. I understand some people need welfare while they have a job because they cannot make their payments, but in time get off welfare once they got the provided help needed. That is not her situation.

Yes, I agree with you.. I am not going to do anything about it. It just bothers me a litte.. a certain amount of people who do commit fraud could get off, and the people in real need could use it. But its her life and her choices and I cannot influence them or change them, thats her choice to do. Maybe she will figure it out one day, or they will catch on to her job.

Do you know if..
- How often does welfare review such cases (healthy average person but "no source of income")
- Is there a way welfare could figure out a person is working just based on the social number? The club took both of ours social insurance numbers.. I told her to be careful cause there could be a way, but I may be wrong?

 

No Kista, WE aren't missing a thing. We hear and see all.

The fact is, you already knew you weren't going to do anything. You already knew exactly what you were going to do/not do. You already made your mind up.

You feel hurt though, because you felt you trusted her and somehow this offends you enough that it hurts you emotionally.

But that's ok.

Honey, if you just wanna talk, go for it. We're here and we'll listen. Some of us will even talk with you via PM or phone call.

Up to you.

 

I can't believe anyone would see this any other way. No one expects a friend to dob in a fellow friend, but equally no one can honestly say they agree with everything that their friends do.

 

It seems like a built-in mechanism for girls to talk about their disapproval of their friends' behaviour behind their backs. Oh well, whatever makes you happy Kista!

 

Yeah, I also read your last post in which you are still concerned way more with her life then yours... The fact that you decided not to call the cops this time is just that... this time... You still feel that you have the right to be upset by what she does in her life... It is just a matter of time until she (or someone else) pisses you off enough to call the cops...

 

Oh here you go... You want to show you arent a rat and that there is nothing wrong with what you 'thought' about doing?

Go tell your friend what you told us...

Tell HER that you were considering calling the cops on her...

Til then...

If it squeals when stepped on...

 

For those who are confused about this, and think my reaction may be over the top, considering she just 'thought' about it and didn't do it...

There is an episode of Married With Children that covers why I feel this way in this circumstance... seems those who have said, we have all thought about doing things like this, are right... it has crossed everyone's mind at one point in time or another...

Those who aren't rats, reject the idea immediately... Those who are rats... look for justification for those thoughts, by talking to others and 'trying' out excuses to see which ones will past muster and not get them labeled as a rat...

As was explained to Kelly in MWC.... If its outloud, its talking... if its with no sound in your head, its thinking...

or seems we are on the net... If you TYPE it, its talking...

 

Now we know you get all your wisdom from watching sitcoms and dwelling here....hmmm

 

If you can't post on topic, I would suggest you avoid posting at all.

 

Did anyone miss the part where Kisa said the girl is spending $200-250 a week on weed. The fact remains if you're making more than enough money to live comfortably, and if anything the one thing welfare is doing is helping you buy weed, it's abusing welfare. Every person that is abusing welfare, especially in times like these is just straining and already over stretched system which makes it harder for people who actually need welfare to obtain it.

 

Proof of this?

It gets tossed out all the time as a reason welfare fraud is bad, and it is 100% bullshit...

It is like saying the government is going to stop buying hammers because some of their suppliers are charging them 400$ for a 10$ hammer...

 

Common sense! Something you seem to be lacking. If there is a dollar in a pot and somebody takes out a nickle, that only leaves 95 cents for everybody else.

So, are you saying welfare fraud is good, or just neutral?

Huh? If the system is to be run right, you take that $400 hammer, knock the abuser in the head with it, and buy the $10 hammers from the people who don't abuse the system.


What you seem to be implying is that other people abuse the system so it's alright if everybody does.

 

No, what I am saying with no extra implications in it, is that the small number of abusers to the system, do not effect the amount that is in the pot.

The reason some people can not receive social assistance when they need it, is because the system is set up to assume everyone is trying to defraud it, because of those like you and the others in here who claim it is rampant.

The government is throwing money away left right and center, in much bigger lumps then any social assistance programs receive. If you want to find waste that will improve things, look at the money spent killing innocent people half way around the world... look at the money that is hidden in the costs of normal items to fund black op and top secret programs.... look at the money that is spent fighting a fucking weed...

What all this is saying in total, is that to worry about someone committing welfare fraud, is like worrying about a pin prick hole in the bottom of your boat, when there is a torpedo about to hit it...

Beyond that though... How can you argue that it is okay to spy and turn on your friends? You must have a really low threshold for who you call a friend... as must they...

 

Oh, that's okay then.

Hardly anyone murders people, so that one person who does- big fuck?

 

Ahem!!

 

So now, you wish to compare welfare fraud to killing people? lol

 

The point is, just because something might be ineffectual to the greater scheme of things, does it not mean that this something is any less wrong.

You already know this, you know it's wrong, i'm surprised you feel this way. But alas, no matter.

 

No, but what it does mean is that you shouldn't be looking for way to take others down, on the basis that it is for the greater good...

If someone wants to be a prick and do so... fine do so... but don't claim it is from a point of view of doing good.

 

She has said she wasn't going to do this, this is your own personal conjuration. Krista said that it bothered her, it would.

I can understand that 'grassing' someone up is not a nice thing to do, but I can't understand that had someone actually decided to do it

it would be about self gratification, rather than equality.

I mean, modern management theory does suggest that equality really is what drives people more than anything else. I think Adam's did a lot of work on it.