Too much acid?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by icecreampheonix, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. icecreampheonix

    icecreampheonix Member

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    Is there such a thing? I have a friend who tripped on a weekly basis for a while, and was recently committed to the psychological ward of a hospital after an apparent psychotic episode. He gets time out of the place a couple hours a day, and it out for a few days for Christmas, so it's not too serious. Basically, he is of the opinion that he is not crazy, and does not have bipolar disorder, he is only eccentric and wise from his trips. I mostly agree with him here, as I think that being held in that place is doing terrible damage to him. He is dismissed by most as crazy and has lost a lot of friends. Consequently he feels everyone is against him, and constantly trolls the internet ranting about why he is not crazy, which of course makes him look crazier, thus losing more friends. So do you think that crazy indeed exists? Or is it a legitimate lifestyle choice to reinvent your own reality like it seems my friend has done?
     
  2. LeviathanXII

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    I doubt an argument can be made that insanity is a lifestyle choice if that is what you mean. Considering people do not make the choice to have mental illness. Drug induced psychosis can be a tricky subject though, because the individual might believe they are enlightened or some other weird stuff, therefore seeming like they made a choice and continue to make that choice. In the end though, even drug induced psychosis is just that, drug induced, I suppose an argument could be made that they chose to do the drugs with the intent of psychosis, but to do that purposefully you probably have something not quite right with you to begin with. There is a reason that people can be forcefully admitted to mental hospitals if they are a danger to themselves or others. Because people with severe mental illness do not normally wake up one morning and think "Wow, im really insane, I better check myself in". It does happen, I know someone who works at a hospital for those with mental illness, and he says there are several patients who live relatively normal lives but occasionally do week or month long terms in the place when they feel they are going downhill temporarily.
     
  3. icecreampheonix

    icecreampheonix Member

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    Well he has a number of very intelligent and well educated friends who think the diagnosis of psychosis is ridiculous. They think it's bipolar disorder. He doesn't seem to be exhibiting any symptoms of psychosis, and he is certainly not in danger of harming anyone. I think the overmedicalisation of the world is mostly to blame, but at the same time, my friend is completely uncomprimising in his position; he refuses to believe there is anything wrong with him. He said something to me the other day along the lines of, "HPPD is psychosomatic," and he basically thinks that all problems acid causes are the fault of the media and agents of control making us think that acid cause these things. I don't think he is entirely right or wrong.
     
  4. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    i used to take acid on a once a week basis a few years ago, honestly i think that is to much. So yea there is such a thing

    I don't know for sure if you will/won't go crazy, but i know for me there came a point where i could not relate to anyone, or most "normal" [people.

    Why was he committed and who committed him? Did he go on his on will or did someone convince him he was crazy and then he went?
     
  5. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    Of course there is a thing as too much.
    Tripping is not the body's natural state. If there is a such a thing as too much water there is certainly such a thing as too much acid. His diagnosis of prolonged psychosis may or may not be valid, but when you are committed to a mental hospital following a psychotic episode it may be time to reassess your relationship to psychedelics and consider a break.
     
  6. icecreampheonix

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    His parents committed him, after they had a heated argument and the police had to be called. His parents smoke weed and are really open-minded, reasonable people, but you know, when a doctor says something, most people will accept it as true.
     
  7. Mr.Writer

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    the problem with acid is it can cause psychotic reactions in people who have not taken it.
     
  8. PrudenceInHarmony

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    "A question that often drives me hazy, am I or others crazy?"-Albert Einstein. It is now a law that if you take acid more than three times I believe? That you are legally crazy. Get him out of their as fast as you can. It will only make him insane and not in the good way.
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    I know there is such a thing as too much acid or psychedelics in general and crazy exists beyond a 'lifestyle choice,' I've experienced it first hand LOL. A completely unreasonable and illogical action can seem perfectly normal to a 'crazy' person. Luckily I've came back, at least somewhat, quit smoking weed and drinking alcohol which seems to have improved my mental health a bit.

    Also even if one doesnt exhibit psychotic behavior, I've noticed some heavy acid/psychedelic users personalities change dramatically due to heavy use and basically become for lack of a better word pricks, so perhaps that kids parents saw a massive change in personality and that led them to believe he's not of sound mind.
     
  10. SoulVibrations

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    i don' tell the cops how many times i take acid, so i am still illegally crazy!
     
  11. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Sounds like he's gone a bit too far, but help from smart friends and actully following their advice, and refraining from taking psychedelics for a while, would do him good.

    You CAN go too far, and it CAN fuck you up. But being locked up won't heal him.
     
  12. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Urban legends and bullshit:2thumbsup:
     
  13. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

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    is there such a thing as too much? yes. once a week is a pretty fair amount. especially if it is over extended periods.

    i don't believe in psychiatry. i've seen first hand the kinds of montrosity that it can breed; and if that happens some of the time, then how are we able to pinpoint when those kinds of flaws present themselves? when the system is created of people whose sanity is dependant upon the diagnosis of doctors who are bred by a system to teach them that their view of the world is the correct one and that their patients views are invalid? how do we know that those kinds of montrosities aren't happening behind closed doors with no one to speak up about it other than people whose view on the world is seconded to that of the system?

    we had a discussion similar to this in the 'should i dose again at all?' thread.

    i think, that with lsd, you have to have a healthy respect for the experiences that you go through, how they relate to your life, and the integration of those experiences. you can eat too much acid, and it can make you kind of whacky. but healing is always possible. but true healing and really the basis of the psychedelic experience is rooted in understanding and growth. as it relates to you in every aspect of your life.
     
  14. SoulVibrations

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    I would hate to see the monstrosities that would manifest without the man's system bred doctors.

    I get where your coming from though.
     
  15. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    That explains it!
    I'm legally crazy close too 100 times over!
     
  16. PurpByThePound

    PurpByThePound purpetrator

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    lolz:hippy:
     
  17. LeviathanXII

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    By this logic, how does he know its actually the acid making him trip? Perhaps media (or other people) are what makes his brain think that when he takes this substance, the effects are to trip, therefore he trips. This here kind of shows that your friend is kinda "off" Perhaps not so much that it requires hospitalization, and there is some merit to the claim. Lots of things are all in our head, in fact, it all is in the sense that the brain is what is registering pain, not the body. In fact, a friend of mine believes something similar in that he does not believe the common cold is real, and says it is just something people grow up believing and come to accept as normal. Strangely he has not had a cold in 6 years after coming to this conclusion. Still, the same cannot be said for everything, the mind and body are effected my outside microorganisms, there is no arguing with that. Because we can see them and can show how antibiotics work to rid the body of a specific illness. Mental illness is much more difficult to talk about in this sense though.
     
  18. guerillabedlam

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    ^Actually your body is what registers pain, you have nociceptors located in the body which detect painful stimuli and none are located in the brain, someone could perform an operation on your brain and you wouldnt feel 1 bit of pain from your brain being operated on.
     
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