just looking for some MORE advice. i know there lots of these threads, but i want to be sure. the first question i have have is how intense is salvia extract 20x for a newbie to psychdelics? My second question is what is a decent amount and how much is it? My 3rd question is abit more personal but, would you ever have the desire to do it again after the first time? And my last question is how big of a jump is it from salvia to shrooms and is there a in between drug to it? thanks Hip Forums
If you get a good hit its extremely intense, even for a veteran to psychedelics its extremely intense. The only difference is that a newbie probably will pretty much lose their grasp on all they know of reality and go into panic mode, by no means is that necessarily going to happen though. a decent amount of 20x is probably about a 1/4 of a pipe/bong bowl. I have done it many times after the first time, its by no means my favorite psychedelic but its got a unique quality and character to it that no other psychedelic I've encountered has. They are two very different psychedelics. In terms of just sheer intensity and potency shrooms actually are a step down from salvia. Salvia is very short though which is both unfortunate but also good (you'll understand what I mean if you break through) and doesnt initially make you analyze things like shrooms, its too quick of a trip. There are hardly any stepping stones with psychedelics, there are some that may be easier trips but every trip is different even with the same substance. Salvia is so intense for a lot of newbies and trippers in general they don't know what to do with it. It also has a disassociative/delerium effect so like I said earlier its unique and can't really be compared to other psychedelics.
Here is my second response to this thread, since it lost my first.. Not all extracts are the same quality or potency, it might have the same number, but ive had 20x that was more potent than 60x. SO its just a number, dont attach too much importance to it. I would suggest starting with a lower concentrate, maybe 5 or 10x. A little pinch (i mean little - less than the diameter of a dime) should be more than enough. As for your third question, thats all up to your intent and what your set and setting is of your experience. Be sure to humble yourself, as Salvia does not appreciate disrespect in any form, and She can become very angry, as I know very well. Your last question I am not able to comprehend, the two substances are so entirely different, both with their own benefits and disadvantages.
the reason i'm asking it like that is because i have older friends (im only a freshman in high school) that wouldn't give me lsd because its too intense and said that i should start with salvia then move on to shrooms. so i know they are pretty much completely different psychedelic's but what are the difference's and your perspective on things with either drug,what are each drugs pro's and con's, I mean how how different are they.thx for the other answers though. And guerillabedlam thanks i think you cleared up just about everything i needed answered with the 4th question i thought something like DMT would be a between drug, and I'm surprised you would say shrooms is a step down from salvia i never knew that, but which one should i really do first? thx
If we were to do a stepping stone thing shrooms would be a stepping stone to dmt. Dmt and salvia are both incredibly intense but shrooms is closer to the type of trip dmt produces, still Dmt is a really short trip so again sort of hard to compare. Its really your choice, and more what you are looking for If you want a more 'valuable' experience you probably should go with shrooms. if you want to see how far out of your mind you can go, go with salvia. Salvia is incredibly difficult to integrate into ordinary reality where shrooms can be more useful in this sense. Either one will have a lasting impact and leave you amazed if you get a good dose and are open to the experience.
there is no reason that you should start with salvia, then shrooms, THEN LSD. i have introduced a few people to the world of psychedelics with a low dose of LSD.
Whichever one you decide on I recommend checking out www.erowid.com to get more information on the psychedelic before journeying/tripping. You are young and appear to know very little about psychedelics so erowid is a good start for learning about these amazing plants and chemicals.
i would do LSD first but my friends are the only people in a 200 mile radius that have LSD. i cant buy any either because they are pricks. shrooms and salvia are easier to get and guerillabedlam, I like erowid a lot I knew about that site before hand, I actually know a lot about about psychedelic drugs except DMT. I end up wording things badly, I am looking for more personal experiences to my questions. I already know the basic answers to most drugs.
they aren't really. one jackass ripped me off and sold me a nick of crappy weed (which was supposed too be a dub) and a fake e pill for 35 dollars. theres only 3 guys i like aha.
