Obama's Eligibility Crisis Gaining Traction In Media

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Constitutionalist, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. Constitutionalist

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    It all started when democratic MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews and new Hawaiian governor Neil Ambercrombie who also is a democrat brought up the eligibility issue with Obama last week. Since then it has legitimized other mainstream sources to bring the issue to the table. The White House is up in arms about the issue. Matthews called for the president to release his long form birth certificate once and for all and settle the issue saying the COLB on the internet was irrelevant. This has come at a time when republicans are to be sworn in next week in the new congress and democratic House Majority Whip James Clyburn warned right before the mid term elections that if republicans won that they would open up investigations into his eligibility. So why would democrats bring the issue up at a time like this? What is the motive? To be factual, a democrat filed the first lawsuit against Obama's eligibility before the election starting this whole fiasco. He was a Hillary Clinton supporter. So, should Obama release his long form as Chris Matthews suggest?
     
  2. crackerboxpalace

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    I think that they should change that silly law to begin with.
     
  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    There is no eligibility crisis. Obama is already president.
     
  4. LoneDeranger

    LoneDeranger Trying to pay attention.

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    I thought this tired old horse had been beaten to death more than a year ago.
     
  5. stinkfoot

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    Interesting use of the term "crisis"...

    Perhaps it's an effort for some within his party to distance themselves from an agenda they see as detrimental to their party and chances in the polls in 2012.
     
  6. Constitutionalist

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    Not so fast though. A president can be removed too. They are now refering to the Article 2 Section 1 amendment of the constitution and the fact that Obama's website during the campaign admitted that he was a dual citizen at birth. You can't be qualified to be president if you were born a dual citizen. His father who was not a naturalized U.S. citizen but rather a British National due to the British Nationality Act of 1948. That status governed his children. This is what is now coming to light in the media and top aids are concerned.

    http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

    From the website. Read the last sentence:

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
     
  7. Constitutionalist

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    What law and why?
     
  8. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    if he never had to apply for citizenship of the usa i don't see what the problem is.
     
  9. Constitutionalist

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    He doesn't qualify under Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution.
     
  10. crackerboxpalace

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    The law or constitutional amendment, or whatever it is, that prevents someone who was not born in the United States becoming President.

    I understand the need to be a full citizen, and I think it would be a fair requirement to live in the United States for a certain time period as a full citizen but to require birth in the United States seems like a relic of a bygone era.

    Our current Prime Minister in Australia is Welsh born yet she certainly acts and sounds more Australian than I do, as someone who was born here. I'll be on the first flight out of here as soon as I can afford to, yet if we had similar rules to the US I could become PM but she couldn't. It makes no real sense.

    This is all just opinion and I understand that others have a different view but I just can't see the logic in it myself.
     
  11. Constitutionalist

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    I see what you're saying. The reason for Article 2 Section 1 of the constition was to prevent allegiances to other governments and that those governments didn't have claims to you. That is what the framers of the constitution intended and the reason the clause was put in.
     
  12. LoneDeranger

    LoneDeranger Trying to pay attention.

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    It's a pretty silly clause now though, isn't it?

    The world has shrunk dramatically since your forefathers drew up that document. I think anyone with full citizenship and a reasonable residency requirement - say 15 years - should be able to run for any office.
     
  13. LeviathanXII

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    1) This did not start gaining momentum last week OP, its been an "issue" since he gained office
    2) People are just using this as another way to try and get what they want. The dual citizen information was available the entire time during the election process. Seems to me like the oppositions voters did not seem to notice before, or at least there was no big deal made. Either the oppositions voters did not even care enough about the election process to research the 2 possible future leaders of America, or they did and decided it was not an issue.
    3)Opposition parties as well as the previous government would have known about it, obviously all of the people intelligent and important enough to raise this issue in a serious manner that would have actually had the presidents name taken off the ballot did not deem this issue serious enough to prevent him from becoming president.
     
  14. stinkfoot

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    Yes- that's all true but by maintaining it in the media/press can influence the less than intelligent voter who has proven a useful tool in setting up likely results in upcoming elections.
     
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