2c-i + 4-aco-dmt: My Own Personal Hell

Spicey, I found the difference between 22mg and 27mg to be almost like a completely different substance. Still the same core effects, but the added dimensions just 5mg brought was very impressive. I have yet to go higher, but plan to (no combo next time! lol). 27mg for me was intense, but not overwhelming (I'm a big girl though so don't go by my doses). Aside from this trip, I've found it to be a very gentle and friendly (although brutally honest) substance. I really think the 2c-i played a role in the darkness of this trip as I've had pretty dark, but less emotionally charged experiences on 2c-i alone.

4-aco on its own doesn't seem to personally attack me, it just lays out my flaws/issues and makes me evaluate them one by one from a more observational standpoint 'til its satisfied. Then it lets me sit back and enjoy the audio/visual synesthesia before I drift off to sleep.

 

that sounded like an epic battle, one of the best trip reports i have ever read. Thanks for sharing

 

haha yea i remember all of it
i was looking in the mirror and it looked like my whole body was deflating, or shrinking kind of ... my body even felt lighter it was fucked up i thought i was going to disappear

but i dont think there were really any unusual physical side effects

 

Thanks for reading and glad you enjoyed it. I hope it helps to inspire anyone who might be unsure of their tripping skills. Just buckle down, hold onto your hats, and walk away a stronger and wiser soul

 

I did 20mg and worked a full shift at work as a supervisor in a retail store. I needed a cigarette at one point, and then another right after (I don't smoke cigs, pot would have been much better but was at work) to help with the nerves I got from it, but other than that was ok. My first dose with this compound ever was 40mg and it was my best time with this compound to date. Perhaps a stellar alignment of set and setting, all my other experiences with it have been in the shadow of abuse and disrespect (see: dosing at work). Some people like me don't get to the good stuff until that range, other people get to that level with 15mg. I would just try a dose of like 10mg first to see how that effects you, if its super subtle and mostly affective/bod high then you should jump up to 25 . . . you'll know you've reached a good dose when you are floored at how complete and deep this one is.

50mg was possibly too much for me. I really lost it.

 

I'm debating whether to try like 30 mgs rectally or just be a normal human being and do 40 mgs orally for my next 4-aco-dmt trip. But I dunno I really enjoyed the visuals and body load (or lack thereof) rectally...

 

do you feel the same for LSD + mushrooms? i can't imagine that after my shroom trip this weekend. i'm not sure i'd want to mix anything (except weed) with LSD, for the same reasons.

 

nice reporst SB sounds like the 4aco got ahold of your head and wouldn't let go. I hate when tryptamines do that. this sounds like an interesting combination minus the side effects but those alone will probably turn me off from it.

 

i love you guys

 

After having searched a bit about this combo, I literally registered as a member of this forum in hopes of sending you a private message or email. Maybe I missed something, but I don't see where to do so?

I almost desperately feel the need to tell you something. If you know how to PM me or email me, please, please do so. Suffice it to say, your report touched me. Please contact me. I will not require much of your time, and I assure you I have only kind intentions. I hope to hear from you, but if not, thank you for the report. It may well be the most important of bazillions I've read over the years.

 

you can't send PMs until you have a certain number of posts. she'll be able to see that there are new posts in her thread though and come back to it. so you can post your question in here and she will answer it.
the entire conversation so far has been public, so it only makes sense that you ask your question in public too. maybe some of us will benefit from it. (if this thread was a bunch of PMs, you never would have seen the most important thread out of bazillions)

 

We do have a steady collection of trip reports over in psychedelic trips social group for sure.

 

Thanks for the report. I had a similar situation on Saturday with 60 mg of 4-aco-dmt. It was my first 60 mg experience. The first hour was in a theatre watching Tron 3D.

I was expecting one hell of an existential ride, similar to a heavy mushroom trip. I ended up going through, as you described it, my own personal hell. It was psychological hell. This substance unlocks the gate that imprisons your subconscious. It brings those thoughts to the forefront of your mind. I have not grown as a person as much as the average human does at this stage in her or his life. I have been, somewhat, living for my brother in order stay close to him in an attempt to not grow up. This thought cut into me like a heat treated blade.

As the effects wore off, I started to think that every decision in everyone's life is made for another person or thing in mind. This seems to be true and makes sense. At the same time, I am not sure if it is true, or just my mind protecting my self-image and helping me feel secure.

I walked away from this trip with the idea that this stuff is literal medicine. I am more motivated in every aspect of my life, I have not procrastinated and I have focused more on personal growth. I had a good cry the next day. I was alone and thinking of many things. I was living life as if the current situation I am in was going to be permanent. My roomates, my room arrangements, my furniture, my job, my car, my clothes, my cats, my music, my movies these are all things that I will only have distant thoughts of when I am older. I may forget about them all together. They will not matter when I am gone and they will be forgotten by all in the end. This is something that has always been apparent. Somehow, I have never been this aware. It came to me that every interest a person has is just to distract them from the chaos that surrounds them. It came to me that I was holding on to things, tangible and intangible, and I was playing certain roles. I was doing these things in order to hold on to childhood.

With 60 mg, I was expecting some self dissolution if not complete death of my sense of self. In a sense it is what I got. In another sense, it was an amplification: An amplification through the purest of looking glasses. I am thankful.

 

Yeah, like pork said you can just post it here if you don't mind sharing or wait 'til you have made some more posts. I'll be glad to listen/answer whatever you have to say... hopefully he checks back...

I'm so glad so many of you guys found this report useful. It remains one of the most profound trips of my life so far in spite of its unpleasantness and seemingly repetitive lack of profundity at the time.

 

- So true haha.

Fantastic report SB and fantastic post CoolRunnings. It gave me chills at times because I relate so strongly with some of the things you two said. The majority of my 4aco experience was also "psychological hell" in a sense; I had to face all my inner demons that I thought I had conquered or had been ignoring. The come down was full of relief and motivation, and I decided to actually do something with what 4aces showed me.

A unique and special chemical, it brought me face to face with my ego unlike anything I have encountered so far.

 

Yup, fascinating how many of us have similar experiences with this one. There's no hiding from 4-aco. The tighter you keep your secrets locked up, the harder 4-aco will pry to get them open. If you don't surrender, you will spend the whole time fighting a battle you will surely lose in the end anyway. 4-aco can be your strongest most intimidating opponent, or a firm but gentle teacher, friend, lover. You really don't get to decide what YOU want to do on a 4-aco trip, it decides from the very beginning and it's up to you how you want to spend the trip - kicking and screaming or take its hand and let it take you where IT wants to go. The best thing to do is hold up the white flag and lay naked and splayed before 4-aco and let it carry out its business with you. Now THAT is a beautiful experience.

 

1. (4aces):devil: all your mental drama are belong to us

2. (sb):daisy: take me you wild stallion!

3. ???

4. :sunny:

soon i will have a good journey with this one i think. need to stir up some things in my mind and see what's up.

 

Wow thanks for all these reports guys. Fascinating characteristic of 4-aco-dmt