1000 Facebook "Friends" Ignore Woman's Suicide

certainly you won't mind a little "tough love" then; around here it's called negative reputation

i'm sure you also won't mind if i laugh at your opinions and ideas, most of which seem fueled by the rage you claim to be avoiding

perhaps "love-laughter" actually means "love minus laughter"?

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lol.

 

I disagree, I like people here and both debate and idly chit chat with them.

But I suppose we all take different things from this site, which is fair enough.

 

too long

 

I've seen it happen.
Right here at Hip, infact.
Circa. 4 years ago?

I stumbled across a thread that had been already going for perhaps full day of 'omg, what do we do.' I read the thread. Posted in the thread. It was obvious that nobody 'concerned' was willing to call the cops - so I did.

I remember the cyber-crimes cop I talked with had an interesting tone of voice when I was explaining that the actual suicide threat had been made over 24 ago and why nobody had called previously.

They got back to me fairly quickly and let me know that the person had been found at a local hospital and was OK.

I got some thanks and took them gracefully in word but I remember feeling an odd bitterness about the kudos...

 

I have hundreds of facebook friends that I've added only for playing games. That got out of hand so I made a second profile only for gaming and adding strangers... Considering that, and assuming a lot of others do the same, I don't think that I'd pay that much attention to a post like that. I would be livid if they tried to lump me in with the 999 other random profiles as if I had a hand in her demise.

It seemed a little "Look at me I got a gun in my hand and a finger on the trigger, I'm gonna go boom if someone doesn't look at me RIGHT NOW!" - which is just a call for attention (and my 5 year old even knows that won't work). I even hate that people post statuses about how they're having dinner at some crazy diner, as if my entire life depened on if the salad was fresh or not.

She chose to do it. Its done. Now she can have a feature on MyDeathSpace.

 

Be my guest.

Love and laughter does not mean that I'm going to be some non-thinking twit that blows sunshine up asses, telling people they are Albert Einstein when they think like jackass.

So if you don't like what I have to say,
You can either be a big grown up person and ignore me.
Or you can get all huffy and cry about your problems in the virtual world.

Either way, I'm neither your real mother nor your virtual one. Therefore it's not my job to look at your finger paintings and pretend they are the greatest works of art I've ever seen since Picasso.

I was sort of trying to cover the debate part in the "information/newsletter" comment. Personally, I'm probably never going to meet any of you. So I really wouldn't call it social and since none of you are going to be able to help me in my Ebay sales, there really isn't much networking involved either. (I don't do alot of "Internet business." )

Regardless, I think we can agree that social networking is too broad of a definition

 

not all non-thinkers are twits

some are merely douchebags

 

lolz this thread is fun. is that wrong?

 

^^^a woman died just so you could have your "fun"???



[just like jebeezus!]

 

I have to say it is definitely hard to tell the serious threats from the attention-seekers. Not that long ago a guy I used to work with who I friended on FB posted "Happy Suicide" as one of his statuses one day. I have to say that knowing this kid, I was a bit concerned, but knew not to take it too seriously. He worries me, though, he's very self-destructive. A few weeks ago one of the girls at work was telling me about one of the parties she was at with this particular kid and said he was drinking so much and then popped some Xanax and that he was puking all over himself and that it was just godawful. It scared me for him, it really did, that shit is a good way to wake up dead. It's so hard to tell when someone is just being a drama queen or if they are serious, but I'm fairly certain if he had posted more along the lines of "just took a bunch of pills," I would definitely be trying to step in. I've lost someone to possible suicide (no note, don't really know what happened), and if I could save someone from going through the grief I've dealt with, I would in a heartbeat.

 

It's not a matter of everything being a debate 'because it's online'. If someone told me that to my face I probably would have a fair amount of doubt in my mind.

 

The thing is, it shouldn't always have to escalate to a suicide attempt. That guy you speak of is clearly very depressed (IMO) and is venting his feelings through drug use. Society is so conditioned to only think and react once a person has threatened or tried to kill themselves. Yet for the most part, the behaviour of people like your friend who are potentially headed in that direction, largely gets ignored because it's not suicide. But it is suicide's precursor and shouldn't be ignored. People should learn to act more preemptively when it comes to that kind of thing.

 

Well, he's since moved far far away, but he has lots of friends who responded to the suicide status, so I just hope they keep a good eye on him. He has good reason to be depressed, his life is in a shitty spot right now, I just hope things get better for him.

 

That's very true. How many times have you heard people after a suicide saying things like "I wish Id done this" or "I wish Id said that" while the person was still alive? Not in all, but certainly in a lot of cases of suicide, there are signs there before the event of the possibility of it happening. But like you say, these signs are quite often ignored, or not treated very seriously by those around them. I also think men are less likely to ask for help, for fear of being told things like " be a man, stop being such a wuss, and snap out of it."

I also think a lot of people are far too quick to leap to the "attention seeking" reason, for someone displaying signs of emotional and mental distress. In some cases it is that, but it shouldnt automatically be assumed as such, which I think many people do.

 

Whether online or off... such things are dependent on how the person hearing/seeing them sees the call for help...

When I see someone that I think is havng a hard time, online or off, and I worry they may try suicide, I offer what help I can. That may be just listening, offering advice or possibly even an escape away from their current situation.

Having said that... the people that I know that committed suicide... never gave anyone any warnings. That isn't to say the signs weren't there... they were, and help was offered and in some cases even accepted... and they seemed to be dealing with thier issues... then one day out of the blue sometimes months and months later, they were found dead.

Someone I considered a really really good person whom I think was likely one of the few truly good people in the world did this... over things that happened in her childhood by her father, and her family caused so much bullshit over it for HER, that she just decided she couldn't deal with it all anymore. THe saddest part of it is that she could have asked me to do anything for her, including beating her useless prick of a father into a bloody pulp and I would have without hesitation... She wasn't that type of person however and it would have made her feel worse.

In the case of the article... I would like to point out that every person who saw it, and claimed that they couldn't do anything, is 100% lying.

If they were connected to the net to SEE the post from her, they could have contacted the local authorities where they were and made them aware, and the authorities WOULD have responded.

It still comes back to my original answer though... the majority of people don't give a shit, or worse yet, would want to see it unfold to provide them with some amusement in life.

 

I think this is a very important point, and brings me back to something I mentioned earlier. I know full well what many people are like, and the internet makes it worse, because people think because they're hidden behind a computer, and protected by anonymity, it gives them free reign to act like complete morons, and try to act "big" to impress other like minded losers. I have heard of people on internet sites actually encouraging somebody to take their own life.

This is why I said I would likely only tell people online I genuinely considered friends about any suicidal feelings, because I know how cruel, sick, and cold hearted most of society is. Most people couldnt give a toss, which is really the hard fact of the matter. Difference is, some are too naive to realise this, I however, am not. lol

 

There are other options besides the voice one, which some wont use.

 

That's hardly surprising, seeing as the UK has gone to the dogs. Yob culture reigns supreme here now.