Angelic Psychic Medium Spasoff

Fair enough. If, in her profoundly developed sense of wisdom she did choose not to answer does this provide a positive example for any insights into your own questions from another thread, here? In this case, It does not really matter if she is choosing not to answer or simply hasn't had time; your reaction to this NULL response appears very positive, unlike your own experiences with similar situations. Perhaps you could try and cultivate the sense you felt to old crone's lack of reply in your own similar situations.

If I interrupted old crone's pedagogical style by interjecting (as i feel you imply) then perhaps the lessons shouldn't be on public forums, although I am fairly certain that is not the case and whatever reason she had for posting and remaining silent hold constant and unimpeded by my comments from the peanut gallery.

Back on current topic, and in ways of opening up my reading of the exchange, in liquidlight's earlier post I read this:

and then a few post later, after old crones post:

Now, in my logical mind there are only a few people that old crone's post could have been for (besides as a message to myself, but I've already discussed looking into mirrors meant for other people). Logically, only the people who had posted on this topic would qualify.

So, then it follows that either you, Richard, liquidlight, or perhaps some combination thereof were the intended recipients. Since your post before this contained such things as:

it certainly did not appear to me that you are bragging or

and I took it that liquidlight would perhaps see this as well. So, if liquidlight had the question at this point in the conversation, it seemed to me that they must at least partially be wondering if it was directed at them (since there are only two people left it could have been directed towards (liquidlight or Richard) and if one has already excluded one's self (that is liquidlight) from the set of {liquidlight, Richard} there is only {Richard}, and the question need not be asked.

Given that it was asked, and that liquidlight stated the need for some reassurances earlier I chose to offer my interpretation of old crone's post. Clear? Notice that; my intepretation, which is why I said "I don't want to speak for old crone, but it was my sense...". I do not speak for others and I would not have them speak for me while I am able to do so. However, I certainly don't think it's misguided to proffer how I interpreted what someone said, nor do i take it amiss when someone lets me know how they took what I said. It's a basic communication skill, whether you are repeating your understanding of what was said/done or receiving someone's thoughts as a mirroring back. It allows the other parties to respond as well as correct you directly. And it seemed given liquidlights earlier post (ref above) that they could use some assurance on the point.

I'm curious as well as excited that you have reached different truths about the exchange. What do you feel where the intentions and meaning of liquidlight's post? You said they appear quite clear to you. Why do you think the question was asked? Or do you feel that giving your interpretation of what someone said is "putting words in their mouth" in some sense? Should you want to post your interpretation if you could also include how you came about these intentions and meanings i would apreciate it.

I ask because seeing an 'inside" view of another's process tends to help me with my own processes and to live in the world in a clearer light.

bright blessings,

moonchilde

 

Wow Moonchilde - you think so hard. LOL I do that sometimes too, but right now I just don't want to think that hard. Rigorous analysis is a lot of work, and it can only get you so far. You're good though, I hafta hand it to you. I'll bet you're almost always right, aren't you? Hmmm...what I just said to you sounds an awful lot like something my primary angel/demon said to me (out loud) once a few years back...interesting. You have just helped me understand myself better, and given me a glimmer into why my entities have treated me the way they have. Thank you, Moonchilde.

 

Well, I must admit that the rigorous analysis was only after the fact, when i questioned myself about my reaction. I mostly don't do that sort of thing 'in the moment' (except in situations requiring such weighing) as you are correct, it will only get you so far. However, when having to explain it's either that or metaphorical interpretation (which is often so much up to personal interpretation that even though it feels right, the people involved are often talking about different things).

I don't know about being almost always right. Much of my early life was led unexamined and consequently I made quite a few important mistakes that just sort of happened and didn't even seem that problematic at the time. Then as i changed, my life became being tossed about in a maelstrom of my own failings and inherent faults. Quite a long period of this, actually, questioning my own reactions and opening myself to all the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, purposefully(without meaning to) becoming the target. Gradually I began to sort out what was mine in this from what was distortions from other beings, what was meant as a criticism specifically for me vs. a more general dis-ease that I might learn from and apply. Rigorous analysis really helped me through these times especially when multiple incompatible Truths of being were presented. Of course, experiences of the divine helped orient my compass through these seas once I had the bearing.

I feel like I have just begun to give back in some form of clarity what continues to be explained to me, though of course coloured by my own peculiaraity. I still gnow that I am not at all "correct" in my models but at least feel with certainty I am on a path towards the light (at last!) and that these constructs can help me further on my journey.

I guess I just feel that a necessary step is to rub my ideas up against those of others who have some degree of straightness and see where I am off of true (another metaphor set, lifted from the masons). My guides tend to tell me I am *almost* correct, especially when I come up with a thought pattern that i feel to be Particularly Good. This tends to open me up to the possibility of improvement, even though the original is "right" in some sense.

I am glad that you have been able to help yourself through our interaction. You are most welcome.

 

Wow my ears are totally burning up!

Well what to say? Of course i wasn't sure who old crones post was directed at or why it was said at all.

I'd kind of asked Richard for, not so mutch a full on psychic reading but perhaps a little one ... something that might click and help me at this time. - Because Richard has just turned up here and claims to be a psychic helper of 25 years experience i thought i'd let him help me out if possible ... because i was feeling in need, and also to give him a chance to do what he said he came here to do ...help people.
- And i did this because i liked the way he introduced himself and how he talked and i felt a certain, although not particularly close, similarity with his path.

I felt Old crones post was obviously a response to things said in the thread ... but who and why? Was it directed at anyone at all or just the discussion in general? She's had plenty of opportunity to say such words to Zengizmo before now so i guessed it was at myself or Richard ...and i got defensive LOL ...like i often do when i'm feeling under the weather. I'm sure the understanding and general wisdom of Old crones post is familiar to us all and i almost felt it unneccesary. I'm sure we are all aware of our own egos ...i know i'm aware of mine (some of the time) and pride is my biggest pitfall (also anyones ... i think pride is our main separation from eachother) ..so it chafes me when people point out the pride of another ...and yes i feel maybe they're talking about me. ... because i'm a little paranoid like that

I might add that my own pride is born out of not feeling worthy of love ...so i have rejected and doubted and criticised others in my not loving myself to maintain my separation of stubborn 'rightness'. I've had a bit of an abandonment complex i suppose ...all my life, even as a child and i don't know why ...i had huge fears of growing up when a child and just felt i didn't understand what life is all about and didn't belong. In hindsight i was sensitive, intense, inward, and alot of nervous energy. So anyway i just didn't feel that love, life and real happiness were for me and my ego is my defence to that.
The thing with ego is to try and see past it and really ... not bring it up, ...it gets in the way, only being reenforced by involving yourself with it. I REALLY struggle with my ego, i think it must get quite huge at times but i also know it's capable of letting go of it's grip... my life isn't ALL pain and sorrow

 

To me it boils down to this: It doesn't usually help people much to have their failings explained to them in encyclopedic detail. If you tell somebody with a big ego, "You really need to give up your ego," the first thing they're going to do, because they have a big ego, is to throw up their defenses and feel alternatively depressed and angry. I know this from observing myself as well as others. If you tell somebody who's taking something too personally that they shouldn't take it so personally, they're going to tend to take your admonition rather personally, and maybe feel defensive, maybe get pissed at you, maybe get pissed at themselves for feeling defensive or pissed - and in short, not getting much of anywhere with feeling less defensive cuz they're too busy dealing with their feelings of defensiveness. Emotions don't respond well to logic, explanations, and admonitions.

Not that I'm by any means the perfect practical psychologist who knows exactly the right thing to say to get somebody on the right emotional track. Hell, I can't even do that for myself most of the time.

But right now all this intense self-scrutiny and analysis seems to be pulling us farther away from our true selves. What I think is that we should all go down to the pub and drink pints until the publican makes us stagger out the door. Then we should all stagger over to my place and watch Pulp Fiction until we're snoring in our chairs.

Because we are perfect people, without whom the universe would be incomplete. As the Zen master Shunryu Suzuki said, "Everything is perfect, but there is a lot of room for improvement."

I'm not usually so damned stinkin' upbeat and positive, but dammit, somebody needs to get us out of our heads and having more fun, and I don't see anybody else volunteering for the job...

 

In response to wondering; My above post was not directed at any one specifically. More so was a reaction to the emotional attachments that leads to self distruction, and dis - ease within the choice of focus. We are Spirits having a human experience, drawing the lessons we wish to learn from to us, so we might grow.

When we get lost in the emotions, expectations, comparing, and co-dependance we loose sight of what we are. When we can walk in our center, in absolute trust of our Being, we walk in the center of our Authentic self. Here in this place of being our truth changes as we change. Our perceptions color our view.

Thus to get lost in the wow factor leads to far more pain, and frustration than we would like. Much like being rodents running on a wheel as we trap our self into a cage of our own making.

This opening awareness push's us out of our cage, and ask us to view the fears, pride, and co-dependence we are creating to offer an excuse to facing who we are. We end up running from the very experience we wish to be one with.

The greater compassion was breathed into the response much like a fragrance in the air.

Every path is a path. We choose the steps we take, and the places we wish to go, and focus on. What we do with our experiences is ours, and becomes much like a mirror to show us what we are becoming, or hiding from.

When one embraces the matrix of healing energy the only limits we have are the ones we wrap around us.

To swap stories that become fishy tales that grow, and change with the telling, is more like masterbating the ego without getting satisfied. We miss the point of centering our being so we might understand what Being True to the Authentic Self is within. We are all connected. Yet truth shows us we are alone, and one as well. We will see others with the same lies, distortion, and truth we see our self with.

I remember this one woman I used to take care of. Everytime she was given flowers she would cut the flower, and buds off, and keep the stems. I asked her one day why she did this. Her response was she did not see her self worthy of the beauty the flowers reminded her of. When I told her this was not about being worthy or not....This was about being that which we choose to be, and if she chose to be beautiful she would begin to live the beauty within her, and no longer deny herself the wholeness she said she longed for. Her reply was, "Oh, you mean I have to be responsable, and accountable for me, and my actions. Well you can forget that."

Angels walk with us. They do not harm us. Guides guide but we are the final say. Who we become, and are is not about blame, or judgement. Who we Become is who we choose to Be. Pain is what we hold on to, and emotionally get attached to. Compassion, and love is that which we learn from, embrace, let go of, and honor, and respect first within our self. Trust is grown from within before lived with accountability, and responsability. What we do to our inner most self we do to those around us. As we Live who we are, we all grow in Spirit, and Wisdom, as much as we each so choose to.

 

can u help me with a spirit that needs to comunicate