12 mg 5meo-MIPT (Moxy) = Fantastic Psychedelic Experience!

i had tried Moxy before but in public and at low dose levels (5-7 mg). i had found it to be very euphoric, energizing and somewhat psychedelic with a bit of a body load and a touch of nausea but no purging. My last experience was rather interesting in that i tried smoking a full 15 mg and literally got no effect, so about 1 hour later ate 5 mg and got the effects described above.

So this time, i was safely ensconced at home, purge bucket at hand, sitter/husband nearby and ready to see what this material was really about. So far, it had been fun but a bit disappointing in that it wasn't very visual.

i wrapped 12 mg in a half of a rolling paper and "parachuted" the dose. It came on incredibly fast. i felt like i was starting to trip hard in under 30 mins. By 60 mins. i described by condition as "devastatingly high" when my husband asked. My trip switch had been fully turned to the ON position and hard. i felt like i had taken a very significant dose of LSD.

The body load was a bit tough but the nausea passed in literally just 5 mins with no actual purge.

My thinking was completely changed. i was also very euphoric, silly and found my own head to be very entertaining. i got to thinking about a Terence McKenna lecture where he talks about us swimming in a sea of consciousness and having difficulty understanding it because we're in it. "You better believe a fish didn't discover water," he said. He said taking a psychedelic was like throwing a dye marker into all this and allowed one to get this different perspective. i got to thinking about this and realized how true it was but soon was laughing hard. Here's why:

So, i took a psychedelic drug to take to look at my thinking by changing my thinking/taking myself out of my usual "box" of thinking. You change your way of thinking to get a new view on your thinking. Of course, you're thinking while doing all of this. And, the real point is that one dare not think about all this too much or one my get dragged down into a cognitive vortex.

Doesn't seem as funny in the baseline state but it really had me giggling on Moxy. There were bunches of other streams of thought/consciousness like the above, just as silly, that had me laughing throughout the trip. i stated i felt like i had taken a dose of LSD - one main reason was the mile a minute, thousands of thoughts and multiple thought streams experience of consciousness.

Moxy is a very sensual drug. Massage feels wonderful. Sex was not on the menu but i suspect the two would combine very nicely. The first few hours food/drink tasted funky but after the peak, everything tasted fine again and after 4-6 hours i was ready for a light, healthy meal.

The visuals were significant. The cats looked gorgeous, well defined and very psychedelic. Everything was super bright and distorted. When my husband turned out the light and i closed my eyes i immediately laughed because it was so bright in there.

i had spent 16 hours that week working on pruning/deadheading a huge rose garden. When i looked behind closed eyes i saw endless roses, rose buds and thorny vines. i got to thinking about how the minds/consciousness can be envisioned as a messy tangle of vines symbolically at times.

Return to baseline was fairly rapid. Not as rapid as the comeup, but still fast. i felt almost completely back to normal (tho i wouldn't have wanted to drive) after 6 hours.

Sleep was disturbed/difficult/interrupted the first night, but my dreams near the early morning were very trippy/visual. Kind of nice as i usually don't remember dreams after a strong psychedelic experience.

The more i experiment with Moxy the more i love this material. Thank you Dr. Shulgin! i sense that it can be the perfect "museum drug" or "museum dose" at lower doses and that at about twice the dose i took here (say 20-25 mg) i could have a full blown ego death/launch in my own bed. Lots of potential here. Highly recommended if you can procure it.

Peace & Love,
Spicey Cat,
Purrrrrrr!

 

The vortex exists because it is allowable to be vortexed through this method. When thoughts twirl and collide, one may increase the power of the interaction or one may realize in a moment of clarity, that-



can't wait to try my moxy i have 22mg to pay with. i'm surprised you got so pummeled by 12mg, i was planning on splitting it with someone in a romantic situation for a light boost, but this sounds far too extreme. initially i was going to take the whole 22mg! lol. will save this one for the right time

 

5-meo-mipt sounds pretty interesting; i'd definitely love to try it at some point, but not on the top of my "to do" list.

did the "cognitive vortex" hold any resemblance to anything that has happened on mushrooms? Keep in mind, i'm not sure of your personal experience, but i've had a similar [sounding] experience on 6g of good p. cubs.

 

I've had that experience biting my fingernails.

 

The cognitive vortex was something i had encountered on LSD before. It usually ends in giggles.

Peace & Love,
Spicey Cat
Brrrp!

 

Moxy is hands down the best drug to take with your lover to have sex all night, in a females experience.

 

Never done "moxy" or even foxy. Is it empathogenic, what is the trip like? I've heard it is a good sex drug.

 

Hi Ms. Cat, thank you for the fantastic report ...
i just tried 5meo and after two large hits i felt i was literally going to die ... no visuals, just an intense experience that i was going to cross a thresh-hold with no return. very scare and new experience to feel my psychological self holding on for dear life.
i have the opportunity to do 5meoMipT ... can you share any differences or similarities?
is it as intense as 5meoDMT?
I simply love p. cubensis: it always for me an expansion of consciousness, insights, the feeling of connection with the universe, the experiential understanding, the release from separateness and feeling more connected
a friend recommends 5meo-MIPT that the insights gleamed in this medicine are very different than with p. cubensis ... could you share any thoughts about this?
with gratitude, m

 

5 meo mipt is not very similar to 5 meo dmt, just from reading about them. do you plan to orally ingest the 5 meo mipt or smoke it? i don't think 5 meo mipt will be all that similar to mushrooms either, but they might have some of the same effects. try reading reports at erowid

 

I like the metaphor you said about the representation of consciousness as a tangle of vines. One of the first times I took mushrooms i had a similar discussion with a few people about some vision i had seen of a similar representation of time, with infinite tangles of lines of linear time coming from every direction and meeting in the center, which represents the eternal instant.

We would all identify a specific moment and try to track one of these lines back. Someone would yell, "Hey joourneyers, look at that fence" and someone else would follow the hypothetical line of the man who had designed that fence, and the events which brought about his life, etc.

Anyways, although we were not talking about the same metaphor of life, your mental image of the tangle of vines made me think of that, besides, it's all the sime thing right anyway?

Also, i can't imagine the joy you must've experienced seeing such a beautifukl set of visuals as the infinite rosebushes, especially after you had put so much work into their lives.

I will definitely be trying some moxy whenever I can get my hands on some, probably around 8 or 9 mg to start and work my way up from there.

A beautiful report. thanks

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I actually just noticed somethin: the vision I was describing looks something like each little bit of this forum's background, but more 3D and not red, with that same sort of glowing center.

 

Nice report! Sounds like a very interesting experience. I have 15 mg, gonna try it orally some time soon. Tomorrow I'm going to try 25c-nbome for the first time, if i can figure out a good way to measure it out and dose it!