most spiritual synthetic

i've never had the two by themselves...only with the trio [4-aco-dmt, ketmaine, and 5-meo-dmt]..holy shit though.

snorting a k-hole dose of ket, then taking a few hits of 5-meo-dmt? that's now on my list of things to do

 

i've had somewhat "spiritual" trips on 2ce. the only other synthetic i've tried though is 2cb. i have much hope for 4acodmt and maybe DPT someday

what dose(s) are you talking about?

 

Well, I have taken as low as 5mg and as high as 15mg. Don't get me wrong, I was tripping every time, and have had amazing experiences..My first dose of 2c-p was 5mg and I was feeling nice and psyched out, but the trip reports I read had me expecting more. After several more doses and many fridays/saturdays spent, I found that I enjoy 2c-p most at 12-14mg with just me and my girlfriend laying around listening to music talking.

 

15 mg wasn't too intense? what's a good starting dose you think? to get a good feel for it, AKA not too weak.

 

I would call 7-8 a nice first time use. I gave 7mg to my girlfriend for her first psychedelic experience and she had a great time.

I just can't wait for winter to end. I have a feeling I would enjoy it outside on a warm summer night.. next to a fire with some friends or something. I really want to take it in the adirondack mountains out in the wilderness instead of in my cold confined house.

 

Is 5meoDMT spiritual at all?
Does it open the spiritual dimension say like mushrooms ... ?

Thank you!

 

Very much so but its not really comparable to mushrooms. Its a 5-10 minute flash of profound feeling but not much visually. Its harder to integrate back into reality as well I would say.

 

The only RC psychadelic I tried so far was 2C-E and I found it a lot less spiritual than mushrooms or LSD. All I wanted to do on 2C-E was to observe the beautiful, colorful visuals and all the beauty around me while I was able to think relatively clearly. Whereas on mushrooms or LSD I don't experience many visuals only a slight distortion of reality (though I havent experienced a large dose of LSD yet) but I become extremely introspective and get a completely different outlook on things and life. I'm going to try 4-ho-met soon so will update on how it compares to natural psychadelics in terms of spiritual value.

 

DPT and 4-ACO-DMT have been the most profound in my experiences. From my experiences, 4-ACO-DMT seems to have more potential to change lives than any other psychedelic.

I have only had two tear inducing trips in my life. One was during a DPT trip and the other was after a 4-aces trip.

Anyone can claim to be changed after any significant occurrence. I can and have. I have claimed to be changed by psychedelics in the past. I did not know what change was. I changed after 60 mg of 4-aces. I know a lot of thoughts and actions that I produced were not true to myself. My subconscious would not approve. As the days go by, my mind will try to make me forget what I was shown that Saturday night. I am (at least I think I am) trying to keep those images and thoughts in my memory for the sake of personal growth and good will.

I think the paths and roles that society calls for are unnatural for humans to frequent. In my situation, and a lot of others' as well, I have no choice but to submit to the machine. My overall trajectory will not be directed by my true self, but, there are many things I have let go of and many situations that I now approach much differently.

 

4-AcO-DMT, DPT. Haven't tried 5meoDMT yet but it could be up there.

 

Spirituality is subjective. I could argue the slice of toast I had for breakfast was more "spiritualy enlightening" than any psychedelic I've tried. Spirituality, like religion, is a crock of shit in my opinion.

*edit*
Don't take it the wrong way, I dont have any problem with spirituality, it's just my opinion. Spirituality is a personal thing.

 

Thanks!
... how about 5meoMiPT (moxy), does that produce that amazing and profound spiritual dimensions like mushrooms for example ... ?

 

Ive only taken moxy below 10 mgs and at that dose it was hardly spiritual or cosmic. It was closer to an empathogenic drug like ecstasy but I know it gets more psychedelic as the dose increases.

 

guerilla thanks for your insights ...
curious if there is any other synthetic that you thinks opens one up to cosmic and spiritual exp. and insights? ... thats what i totally love about cubensis, so cosmic and spiritual