Only because it is never talked about! In this thread we lift the veil off the sham that is shit paper!
We use 36.5 billions rolls of toilet paper in the U.S. each year, this represents at least 15 million trees pulped. This also involves 473,587,500,000 gallons of water to produce the paper and 253,000 tons of chlorine for bleaching purposes. The manufacturing process requires about 17.3 terawatts of electricity annually. Also, there is the energy and materials involved in packaging and transporting the toilet paper to households across the country. Toilet paper also constitutes a significant load on the city sewer systems, and water treatment plants. It is also often responsible for clogged pipes. In septic systems, the elimination of toilet paper would mean the septic tank would need to be emptied much less often. -To create toilet paper seems to be an excessive waste of water and other sources of energy.
well if any of you have travelled in India and other many other Asian countries then you'll know that they wash their bums after shiitting which i reckon is a much more clean system - especially for us with hairy anuses that don't shave them. It's great, every toilet has a tap beside it or the more sophisticated systems like the 'closamat' toilet. They have jets of warm water that wash your bum and the blow dry you with hot air. Doesn't have to be so sophisticated though - just a spray jet beside the toilet - it really is much better system, cleaner, healthier and no paper pulp to sterile and dispose of. Simon
This kinda reminds me of an old post a couple years back http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=284687&f=438
So, if I am to understand this correctly then if I keep my ass immaculate at all times then no matter what my opinion is it is basically law???
This is true. However I'm also somewhat anal about germs. Which is the same reason that I don't finger my ass and am not Indian.
Read pages 2 & 3 and this is a comment: Make your own bidet Go get a 'T' that allows you to switch between the line to the main shower and the one to a shower wand. Most plumbing situations can accommodate one. For additional parts, you will also need at least one additional high-quality shower hose long enough to reach to the toilet, and for the ladies, a pulsating shower head. :afro: You can go cheap on the shower-head if you just need to rinse and can't swing the pulsating one, but don't go cheap on the hose. And if the shower controls are not next to the toilet, an 'off' ball-valve chrome piece to fit between the hose and shower wand, and a bracket for the wand if necessary. How it works: When you are done showering, switch the 'T' back to the wand, and get the water temp where you like it, and turn off the extension wand. When you need to poop, do it then reach for the wand. Aiming the spray towards your crotch, put the head straight-down into the toilet between your legs, and turn it on with your other hand; wait for the temp to be right, then wash yourself with the free hand. tip: Be sure to put the shower head straight up and down into the toilet - if the wand is shooting below the back of your ass and above the rear toilet rim under the seat, you can get water on the floor. Sure, it's clean water if you clean your toilet every few days.. or if you screw up every few days tip: Be sure to use the free hand to cover the output of the jets in a way to keep the water directed down into the bowl until you are ready to tilt the spray to your 'taint. It's a very natural movement: in this case, the left hand puts the wand between the legs, the right hand turns on the water valve, and then simultaneously checks the temperature, covering the water jets from spraying up over the bowl; then cleans the 'taint, then covers the water jets again when the wand is tilted back again to straight up-and-down, then turns off the wand. This way you can have a full-on bidet for the budget price of about ~50 bucks at most. It's waaaay more sanitary: yes, you do get your right (or left) hand 'full of shit' but it all washes off, and softly washing it away is better than smearing the paste all over the cheeks, leaving stains. And you never have to be concerned that if A) the next moment you want to make out, that your ass and sweaty balls or twat is clean. or B) if you're like me and don't concern yourself with the hands-on physical side of it (although I do like to be intimate), then you'll also like your clothes stay cleaner longer. Chlorinated or other areas with toxic water:Your skin is absorbent as a sponge to fluorides and bromides and hormones and other chemicals, chlorination makes it more porous, and most certainly the area around your taint absorbs more and is more easily irritated by what is called 'water' in the public, out of the tap of US/UK and Ireland supplies. That stuff is total junk but you can clean it up enough so your hair stops falling out: An activated-carbon block standard cylinder filter housing and filter cartridge, about 30USD-60USD. The housing is a 20" slimline preferably, with a 1/2 pipe-thread fitting, for the plumbing right from the wall before the old shower stem. This you can also install yourself, and I believe it handles something like 100,000 gallons - at least a year of use before you need to think about chucking the cartridge. The length of the 20" works with the ~2.5+ GPM shower-head flow-rate. A 10" looks exactly like most water-purification under-the-sink models, but does not treat the water running through it due to the flow-rate of showering. tip: When installing, the 20" is going to be heavy when full of water, so make sure to get a few different length f-f pipe 'nipples' (short sections of pre-threaded pipe) within a range you measure out b4 going to where-ever you get your hardware from. The focus is to have the 20" pressed up against the wall when the head is screwed-on, this way there is only a little pulling-force on the pipe from the wall and no bending force; most of the force is shearing/downwards. Run your 'T' right off the output-side of the filter, then put on your existing shower arm w/head. Run your new hose off the 'T'. If you're on mainland europe, it's easier because the water is not as toxic, no fluoride or chloride, and the 'T' plumbing is at tub-level, right at the tap for the shower. So no filter and no stretching. Fewer parts.
With the solution posted above: The clothes stay cleaner longer Your genitals and ass are much cleaner throughout the day, cutting down on rashes You don't stink You are less likely to absent-mindedly scratch your ass then infect yourself If you are intimate, you aren't stressed about stinking Your sweaty balls/twat is not so sweaty, sticky or uncomfortable. and lastly you don't use toilet paper. Toilet paper production, transport, and removal from the waste stream, all uses far more energy and water than washing your ass rightly. Keeping toilet paper wipes in the toilet area for guests but rarely using them is nice. Plus you are not going out to babylon to buy a big package of toilet paper. One more reason not to go to babylon is a good reason to me.
No. I thought it was pretty clear that a pun was intended the first time. The second time I actually just couldn't think of a better word so I used it again. Anyways, the cloth ideal is pretty decent. However I usually only go once a day, if that, and I just shower afterwards.
lol It is way nicer not scraping the anus though. I suggest giving change a try in that department sometime.
I'm not splashing my ass with water, and i'm definitely not going to own a shit rag. You mistake me for a French person.
Your timing has somewhat convinced me. I did a tea cleanse this morning and have gone to the washroom around 5 times today, feels like I'm using sandpaper after the first two times.
I know the feeling. Like I said give it a try and I guarantee you will not regret it. Even if you are hurting right now, a warm wet rag isn't going to further irritate anything.