you might start with 15mg. The come up is very quick so you'll know where you stand and if you've had enough or need to boost a few milligrams or so, unlike some of the phenethylamine rc's where you can get into trouble redosing too soon.
guys how would you compare 4aco and mushrooms ... any difference in the cosmic and spiritual insights? what's the come up rate of 4aco: easy, fast, super fast? i usually feel FANTASTIC after a mushroom trip (super good) ... is this the same in 4aco?
4aces is cleaner, less chaotic, more gentle, more psychological come up for me is super fast how i feel after depends on how the trip went. often there is a A LOT of mental cloudiness.
12mg is roughly the equivalent to one eighth of mushrooms. I've made thousands of 4 aco dmt ty dye psychedelic white chocolates. And I've found 12 mg is perfect for every type of Tripper. Experienced or not. I've given 4 aco to friends with no experience with psychedelics and substances in general. Received excellent results. Much better than if they were experiencing normal mushrooms.
^^i would have to disagree. my single experience with 25 mg was maybe as strong as a half eighth of weak mushrooms. maybe my sample was degraded though.
I would say that ~40mg is more like an eighth of good shrooms. but individual reactions to 4aces vary widely.
Your definitely right. 4 aces seems to drastically affect people differently. Dosage wise. As pretty much with any tryptamine for that matter. But I've seen people for sure overwhelmed with the 12-15 mg range. Obviously beginner trippers, but damn 40 mg about every time has provided close if not full blown ego death. At least for myself anyway.
I would go with 15mg if you don't have a lot of psyche experience. This one really has a wacky dose-curve response depending on the individual. My first experience was 22mg, in public, and I felt pretty good. Next was 27mg at home and it was fairly strong but didn't quite get me "there". Next was 30mg at home and I had my first ++++ full-on ego death experience, ever. Was not expecting that at all... I personally like strong experiences and I really have no desire ATM to go above 40mg with this stuff. Then again, some people say 25mg is hardly noticeable... it's really all trial and error with this one.