Should Guns be Banned in the US?

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  1. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    hey, i'd ban cars too

    but that's a different poll...
     
  2. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I disagree with this answer. I'm not a criminal; if a gun law was passed, I sure as hell won't hand mine over to the government because some rich whitey in DC says what I can and can't own.
     
  3. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    All I know is leave me and my property and my dog alone and I won't shoot you. You cross those boundaries, I might shoot you. Seeing as I don't own a gun, this is hypothetical. If I owned a crossbow...well, I'd fucking crossbow you instead.
     
  4. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    cats here, and i have neither gun nor crossbow

    so i guess i'll have to piss on you

    [oops, no property either, oh hell...]
     
  5. fluttersteke

    fluttersteke Member

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    I only wish guns were banned from the US. I wish I could vote to 'ban all guns'. But I think we'd all really be screwed if guns were banned in this country.

    Think like a criminal for a second!! A criminal will always find a way past the laws. Drug dealers will always find drugs to sell. Murderers will always find their weapons. If they want to buy a hand gun, they'll buy a hand gun. It may be hard at first but they will always be sold on the black market.

    Now think like a normal civilian for a second. Guns get banned from the US and what does the normal person do? They follow the rules and get rid of their gun because THAT'S THE LAW!!!

    Now we got an even more screwed up country because nobody is able to protect themselves from intruders/gun men. Maybe some little kid won't shoot up his school but our political figures will still be gunned down. Crime will just be a lot more organized.

    I remember watching Chris Rock stand-up one time and he said "I'd shoot you right now... if I could afford it". Seriously, a bullet should be what we worry about. A $5,000 bullet.
     
  6. Burnt

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    Guns are not the problem, people are the problem.
    If someone wants you dead they will find a way to kill you, I can think of ten ways right now not involving a gun.
     
  7. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I don't think this is necessarily about murder though. How many people use or take out a gun when murder isn't necessarily the objective?
     
  8. Burnt

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    not many, most people I know either like to show of their gun or use for hunting or target practice.
     
  9. pnkelfntsonprade

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    I agree with this statement 100%. Same with drugs. I don't know how many posts on issues I have read on this forum about how the government is not on our side but it has been a lot and this is one of them. I bet more people would be killed in the effort to remove guns from the public than have been killed from guns in the last 20 years in the US. This is more about controlling us not the guns.
     
  10. dutchblood87

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    You can build a gun.
    Okay, so if we for example get invaded, or some rapist breaks in your house and he is armed, you gonna let him take control of your house. or steal your shit? 96% of Switzerland owns guns, yet they have the lowest violent crime percentage in the world, or at least top five now. I support our second amendment for the safety of myself. Now I am a convicted felon, and have no gun rights, but I do have a gun, and I know how to use it and how not to use it. It's only idiots that screw things up for the rest of us. Careless imbeciles are the ones bringing violence to our schools and abusing our gun rights.
     
  11. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    False.
    There are plenty of people capable of building a gun from blueprint.
     
  12. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I really don't feel that guns are the real problem. I believe it's something to do with the society itself. For example, here in Canada we apparently have twice as many guns, but a fraction of the gun related crimes and murders.
     
  13. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    You also have about 273,000,000 less people than the United States.
     
  14. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Funny thing about gun laws, is that I have never met a criminally minded person who wanted a gun, who couldn't get one....

    I know many people who have a (non-criminal) need for guns (rural living) who are blocked from doing so by such laws though...
     
  15. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Yes, we do.
     
  16. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Our gun murders here are a fraction of the US gun murders PER CAPITA.

     
  17. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    What effect does banning anything do? People will do what people will do,legal or otherwise. It's always been that way.
     
  18. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    If you want to play the numbers game, Canada also has a far lesser population density and fewer urban environments.

    But beyond that, I would never argue that it doesn't have something to do with the society itself. Of course it does, American culture and history is deeply seeped in machinery, post-industrial revolution, and war. Banning guns would not only be unconstitutional, it would never be accepted, so it's pointless to even discuss.
     
  19. ChronicTom

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    If you don't understand what per capita means... or where it spells it out when it says PER 1000 people, then there is no point in having any type of discussion with you.
     
  20. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Maybe that's what needs to change. Fuck the constitution. That's the same type of shit christians pull with the bible, a book that was written 2000 years ago. It's fucking irrelevant. The world isn't the same place that it was 200+ years ago. Maybe the constitution needs to change in a couple parts. It's pure ignorance to say, "this 200 year old piece of paper tells us what we can and cannot do, can't go against it."

    Society needs to evolve and stop listening to old pieces of paper that are not longer relevant. Life goes on. In 300 years are people still going to be listening to some old shitty piece of paper that a couple of racists wrote 500+ years ago?
     
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