Abstaining

somebody's been watching the nasty stuff.

 

Honestly, when you try to look at it through a non sexual lens, it's all pretty sick, while normal sex, even rough or fetish sex, is not. Ametuer porn is an exception... But corporate style porn is just sinister... And being able to get off to it leads to worse porn, but in essence, it's about the same, no matter what it depicts... It's all depressing and kind of sad.

 

:2thumbsup: well said there.

Nasty stuff is all individual opinion.

I think if you are just looking at females pleasuring themselves (normally) that isn't depressing at all or negative in any way.
Once I would get into something, it would just lead to me needing something more, and then something more. That's how it was when I abused drugs, and exactly how it is when I use porn.

 

Congratulations on being clean. I'm a musician and I used to work as a bartender so I've seen people on both sides of the recovery thing. I realize that shame and ego are both large parts of the problem.

To say that you aren't going to masturbate and attributing it to Buddhist Philosophy is something that honestly sounds like a narrow view of Buddhism. There are certain sects that believe that any thing that you do in your life can be a form of meditation including sex and masturbation. Simply denying your urges is not going to release you from your urges. You can quit masturbating all you want but when you see an attractive person you will still have the same thoughts and desires about them.

About the strict vaginal sex thing. I know plenty of Gay Buddhists. Part of the attraction is the disconnect from conventional Judeo Christian guilt involving love and sex.

The whole concept of abstaining from Masturbation and posting about it just seems a little like an attention device. What happens if you crack tonight. Will you engage in more guilt and shame over your failure? To me it is like the guy who sits in his prison cell making a mark on the wall for every day that he is there. It is not moving forward it is simply a reminder of how long you have been there. The fact of the matter is that the only 2 addictions that abstainance isn't considered a healthy treatment for is food and sex.

The point I was trying to make with the meat story is that if you attribute enlightenment to external things like whether you masturbate or eat meat you've missed the point. Right sexuality is basically not raping or manipulating people into sex. If you are in a commited relationship or have a set of rules within that relationship it means sticking to those rules and agreements.

Now that said it sounds like you are in a re-assessment period. Good. Again congratulations on being clean. But don't kid yourself that not masturbating or engaging in anything but vaginal sex is going to miraculously going to deteriorate the stupid ego bullshit that prevents you from achieving clarity. Sex can be a wonderful healing thing. Even non vaginal. It helped me heal some of my childhood wounds.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

that age of 19 is for anyone so confused?... Never mind, it's a start to find out what you really are and what you really want. I have had also that kind of thoughts during my life in different moments. I keep for a good long time away from masturbation, of course having sex but even if sex wasn't possible I did not masturbate.
without understanding and in a very slowly process how longer I stay without having sex or masturbate so worst I feel. I was upset, I feel depressed, but I really didn't know why! It took me some time to understand I need sex, I need also masturbation but I need that in the right way.
I want to have a normal healthy sexual life, not abuse with my sexual desire. Even if I lost time from pleasure standing away from masturbating or even from sex, I know have to do it when I really want it and when I really need it.
Some times I don't masturbate or even have sex for several days and I'm ok but I do it when it makes me feel really good, I try don't to abuse with my sexual life but also don't abuse with my sexual abstaining. Everything in the way and in the time it should be!
Good luck in finding out what really you want!

 

The only thing wrong with masturbation is the Christian induced guilt about it. And it is quite obvious OneLifeForm's mind has been brainwashed by these killjoy WASP bastards. What he is doing is a sinful denial of God's gift to the ugly.

I haven't been able to crack a brute for ten or so years now. I would give anything to be able to give the ol' Purple Headed Junket Pump a dishonourable discharge like days of yore. :dizzy2::drool5::sad:

So when I see a 19-year-old feeling proud because he didn't inseminate his brother's sock, or the bathroom sink again last night, I feel like punching the sick Christian shit outta him!

 

So, because you can't crank one out, it makes you feel like beating others who choose not to as a means of self discovery?

 

me tooooooooooo.....................:sunny:

Good luck,

simon

 

Thank you, but I think you are "reading" too much into what I am typing.

I do what I feel is necessary for me.

 

You seem to know everything. I'm glad someone does..

 

Some are sicker than others.

It might be that those who feel opposition to someone doing something different than them, have some things might need to be worked on.

Maybe not.

 

Day 5.

 

Fuckin' oath!!

 

Jesus will be s-o pleased!

 

Just for you, I think I'll go from less frequent, to full abstinance... And I don't have any imaginary friends...

 

If you find that thought comforting, here's another. You're a lot closer than he is to meeting god in person...

 

I'd call ahead if I were him... in case they forgot to reserve his table there. I hear there's one fuck of a waiting Liszt.

I think G-D (curious initials) may be misinterpreting the intent of the thread. His decision to come in and heckle suggests to me that he in fact has excess spare time that might otherwise be spent teasing houseplants with ice cubes, tazing gorillas, or skin-diving to observe the piranhas. Perhaps out of pure benevolence he is furnishing an obstacle to enable not only "OneLifeForm" but everyone else a chance to practice civility in the presence of words that impart a certain "vinegar and water" atmosphere that presents some challenge to those who wish to remain nothing but civil.

The discussion was not delivered in any self-righteous or judgmental manner nor did I get that it was a product of some religious code of behavior... I took it as someone chronicling a journey toward a particular facet of self discipline- so I must confess that I am baffled at what might be inspiring these expressions of hostility toward this particular discussion. I'm sure our Geriatric Delinquent friend enjoys administering his particular brand of dry wit but there are more appropriate forums for such pursuits- it would be a pity that he be denied access to them because he continued coming here and creating a hostile environment for people to discuss some very personal issues.

 

well done - keep it up, or maybe not (excuse the pun )

Simon

 

Originally Posted by Geriatric Delinquent
" You've got a long way to go to catch up to my 9000 odd days of non-drinking. Just imagine how much more Jesus is pleased with me when he compares my 25 years of complete abstinence to your laughable 5 days of wet-dreaming!

Jesus fucking Christ, I am so fucking G-O-O-D it's obscene!! "

9000 days since you drank semen?

 

What a weird world we have when a credulous cockaholic - who has obviously been convinced by someone, some killjoy dogma, (guess!!*) that his knob bobbing hobby is nasty - writes to proudly tell the totally disinterested world he has mastered his sinful masturbation for 4 days.

How much more bizarre can it get when equally guilty grub rubbers applaud his abstinence, like he is the Bill Wilson of Wank!!

Talk about "Only in America." :rofl:

* can someone furnish a link to a non-religious philosophy that says doing the five knuckle shuffle is offensive?