Will Wikileaks Inspire More Revolutions?

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  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    They are now calling the revolution in Tunisia, the first Wikileaks revolution. That's because U.S. diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks were partially responsible for heating up the protests in Tunisia. They revealed some of the corruption of the country's president and his family.

    So do you think Wikileaks has the potential to inspire more people to rebel against their corrupt governments or was this just a one-off?

    Revolution Scorecard


    #1. Jasmine Revolution, Tunisia, January 2011.
    #2. Revolution, Egypt, January 2011.
    #3. Revolution, Yemen, February 2011.
    #4. Revolution, Algeria, February 2011.
    #5. Revolution, Bahrain, February 2011.
    #6. Revolution, Syria, May 2011.

    I wonder who will be Revolution #9....
     
  2. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    I'm not sure if there will be, and I'm not sure if it would be a good or a bad thing.

    A few is a bad thing, because then things get locked down even tighter. A bunch would be a good thing, it would scare the people in power to changing their ways...

    I'm specifically talking about in effect on the US.
     
  3. dazedgatsby

    dazedgatsby shitheel

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    I hope so...
     
  4. KevinH

    KevinH Just Floating Here

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    It wouldn't have happened without Wikileaks-

    But it wouldn't have happened without this guy-

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    He's the hero here. Mohamed Bouazizi. Remember his name if you can.

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    He's a better man than most of us.

    "He was 26 and had a degree in computer science. Like 200,000 other university graduates in Tunisia (in a population of 10 million), he could not find a job. He then tried selling fruits and vegetables from a stall. However, he did not have bureaucratic permission to do this—such permission being bestowed by other university graduates, lucky or well-connected enough to have found jobs in the public-sector bureaucracy. The police constantly harassed him because he didn’t have the requisite licenses. It is said that he set fire to himself when a policeman spat in his face. ..."

    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/101313/20110114/the-story-of-mohamed-bouazizi-the-man-who-toppled-tunisia.htm

    It was his actions that started the unrest in Tunisia.

    "During Bouazizi’s funeral, Agence France Presse reported that marchers chanted “farewell, Mohamed, we will avenge you. We weep for you today, we will make those who caused your death weep.”"
     
  5. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The one big union in Tunisia joined the students and that is always a factor in successful revolutions.

    The lesson here, once more is:
    THE PEOPLE, UNITED, WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!

    Students are the ones that must unite first and inspire others. Given the current economic conditions in much of the world (food prices are again at their riot levels), it's not going to take much more to ignite revolutions, especially if the needs of the people are ignored after supposedly democratic elections.

    Unfortunately most governments are now equipped with so much spyware and repressive, deadly hardware and huge security forces, that Velvet Revolutions are a thing of the past for most countries.

    Iran only succeeded in putting down the Green Revolution there when they finally got control of all communications technology within the country while maintaining the allegiance of its security forces. If they hadn't the outcome might've been different.

    Today a successful revolution in a developed country would require a lot of people inside the government turning on it... or at least managing to paralyze the gov't for an extended time to where it became totally ineffective and the majority take to the streets to demand change.
     
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    the government has control over the Cellular networks that students are using to organize..

    I remember the G20 here in Pittsburgh they / Government was alexin to prevent them from communication, Citing that using the cell phones to coordinate riots protest would be charged with the patriot act..
     
  7. love-laughter

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    The only thing that would inspire a revolution in the United States is if McDonalds, Burger King and Jack in the Box promised free meals for a year for everyone that participates in getting rid of the current government
     
  8. Meliai

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    throw in a wal mart gift card and shit will really start happening!

    I think we will see more revolutions influenced by Wikileaks as they continue to release more documents. Unfortunately, I don't think this will occur in the US. There is too much truth in love-laughter's joke to even be funny, really. The majority of Americans don't care about what is going on outside of their little bubble, as long as nothing interferes with their comfortable, blissfully ignorant lifestyle.
     
  9. Palm The Joker

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE&feature=related"]YouTube - Network - Mad as Hell Scene
     
  10. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    I disagree. Most wouldn't mind the meal so much but revolution requires actually doing something. Take out cable television and cell phone networks and enough of the population would go berserk to entail extra police services and overtime but not enough to pose a threat to the establishment. Once they are safely stored in the penal system another portion will go nuts when they receive supplemental property tax bills to pay for all the overtime needed to restore ordure- but again, not enough to pose a significant risk to the government or its corporate puppet masters.
     
  11. Individual

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    While there may be strength in numbers, it does not assure success.
     
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  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    That's just Americans once again thinking every Arab country is Suadi Arabia. Tunisia has near no militant islamic movement to speak of, the small one they once had had no real support.
     
  14. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    There's always some master villian scheming away in some backroom...

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  15. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    It'll likely happen. But it's kind of like standing up to your boss in work, not a good idea.

    We should have never let control go as there as it has done already.
     
  16. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    We didn't have a choice in the matter. They blew Kennedy's brains out and said, "alright, they had their chance. We can't trust them to make decisions anymore."
     
  17. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm sorry, this is silly

    if we had no choice then, what the fuck chance do we have now?
     
  18. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Why is it silly? Do you have a say in all the critical decisions of your country? If not then there is truth in what I say.

    On a scale of 1 to 10 or......?


    Simply put, we don't have one. Not a choice nor a chance.
     
  19. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    It's like a dog chasing a car. If it actually caught it, it would have no idea what to do with it.

    Long live anarchy? I hardly agree with you, so we fail to see this isn't a case of 'the people VS the government'

    it's more 'the people vs the government vs other people vs your neighbour vs his dog'

    We need rules to madness. I don't enjoy government, but my intervention would mean little. Evil will always turn on evil, i'm not facing prison charges for an inevitability.
     
  20. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I think you're being a little dramatic.

    I don't believe in anarchy, it wouldn't work for one day.

    Here's an alternative that I'm surprised you overlooked;

    A government that takes people's needs into consideration, rather than the corporate paychecks they receive. One that also counts people's votes instead of "losing" them or having them fuck up due to unreliable machines.

    Also a government that doesn't lie to its people but instead listens to what they're trying to say, both directly and connotatively. Breaking up families, sending hundreds of thousands of people to prison for the possession of a plant is not a government I'm happy with, and I'm certainly not the only one.

    People cry out and protest but it all just falls on deaf ears due to corporate interest.

    I enjoy democracy, I enjoy the idea of a government that protects, cares for and makes it's citizens proud.

    We do not have that government.
     

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