How happy are you all with working? I've always thought of working as hypocracy for what I believe, yet I work casual at a faceless mega store. The reasons I work is for money ( Which is another thing I hate because of the problems that it always causes.) Yet without money, I wouldn't be able to afford my Vw van(Which Im in love with), fast food, clothes, various other hippie shit I buy like rugs and stuff from markets, alcohol and the occasional weed. Next year Ill be off to art school and when I finish I plan on just leaving all my shit and living in my van an freelancing photographing. I really don't want to have to work ever. My problem is simple, I will one day want a house somewhere in the forest where I can have a personal room for all my artistic concepts. I was thinking maybe if I go to work for a couple of years so that I can afford a cheap block in the forest somewhere and then buy one of those kit homes. Its just so confusing, I want to live a simple life on the road while I'm young and in the best decade of my life(20-30). P Anyway what I really want to know is what you all did or are doing while your young to get by. Are you working? If so what as and do you enjoy it? Do you still manage to really live, while working full time?
I didnt really explain how Im feeling. I eventually want a house and for my art t be recognisable but I dont want to spend my younger years behind a desk and stuck in Australia.
I want almost this exact thing too dude. working for money is the epitome of what i disagree with politically pretty much. but theres not much we can do besides what we can do. if that makes sense haha. i plan on getting a straight-laced job until i can afford to fulfill my artistic career goals, while or after, i would start developing my ownership of a self-sustainable farm in which i can make art, take care of animals, and just live.
AHHH! the Paradox you need money for the things that you want but you don't want the exploitive bullshit that goes with it. Here's the thing. I grew up with Hippie parents one of whom was self employed so nothing was handed to me. If I wanted something I had to work for it. Generally speaking if you are self employed you generally have to make major sacrifices since sometimes it is a long time between paychecks. Here is my compromise. I help others for a living. Monday through Friday I help an 8 year old Autistic boy at a youth program in an inner city. Friday and Saturday I help 2 quadrapalegics get dressed and in their wheelchairs and live independently. The schedual helps me persue other interests like interning in a recording studio and putting a band together plus I don't have to step on anybody to do so. It all breaks down to what compromise you are willing to make. When you are 18, 19, 20, it is easy to bullshit yourself into believing that you don't have to compromise a damn thing. Believe you me that moving to the forest and building a kit home or starting and maintaining a self sustaining farm is a fuck of a lot more work than any 9 to 5 that you will ever have. I know because I grew up on one. It sounds good on paper or in your dreams but unless you are actually doing it reality is a real motherfucker. Stay Brown, Rev J
Boguskyle- It sounds like we have the same dream man, self sustanable farm living would be amazing. I dig what your saying Rev and I know that your talking from experience. You sound like a good man. Personally as arrogant as it sounds, try not to take to much info from people on living. I feel as though I need to learn from my mistakes. Even if I fuck up the whole farm idea for a few month/years. Ill be young and Ill be stupid, Ill learn from my mistakes and continue to move around until I finally find whats right. I think I could stand working in a 9-5 environment as long as it was photography, videography or music related. I'm just to worried that I will fall into a boring everyday schedule of living. By the way, I really appreciate your input and info. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything.
Also I really envy your hippie childhood. And I also work for all my own shit and sacrifice having spare money and all the other luxuries that my friends can afford to buy themselves.
You don't have to work a boring 9-5 to earn a decent living. If living in a forest and pursuing art is your dream, you're going to need a way to finance it, but I think buckling down and getting a normal 9-5 job is not the way to do it. You need a job with flexible hours, something you can do in any town and city that you move to, something that will allow you to meet really cool people with similiar dreams. I personally recommend bartending..you'll make a decent living, enough to save for your little forest hut, you'll be able to find work anywhere, your hours will be flexible enough to provide you with ample time to create art on the side, and it won't be a career thats going to suck you in completely. It will be easy to drop that gig as soon as you have enough money saved to pursue what you really want to do.
Yeah bartending right on, something I've actually been considering for a while. People will always drink piss I suppose. I was planning on getting my RSA (Australian bartending license) Next year when I move over to the mainland. I never really thought of bar tending after I finish Uni. Its a pretty sweet idea considering its an easy way to get money. Cool thinking Meliai
If you want advice regarding bartending just ask I've done that too. You can find me. Stay Brown, Rev J
[cue the Stones:] "You can't always get what you want." No matter what you do, there's a certain amount of bullshit that goes along with it. It's called life. Sometimes you get to choose which bullshit you will put up with and which you won't; sometimes you don't. But you can never be totally free from it.
=) I work for a store only in the south, however it's not as though I'm extremely happy working there...I mean I love some of the people who work with me, and it's not horrible. I am in my last year of college (well one more left), so hopefully I'll get a job after that's not doing what I'm doing currently. I love photography as well...I do it as a hobby, I could step it up of course but I'm a bit shy and well...it would be sweet if I could or had the opportunity although I know I need to make that opportunity myself. Good luck man That's awesome, just go for your dreams, as long as you're a good person your dreams will never lead you astray.
I want a life free of depression and suicidal thoughts, I want my life back,it's not so simple though just because I want it does not make it happen. Life's a bitch.
I feel as though working at an organic market or a store you enjoy and has interesting people it won't seem like work. You could finance yourself and be happy while doing it. I know there is this store on main street with real down to earth and awesome people and they sell clothes from the sixties. The employees are super cool an have flexible schedules. If you are super into art then you could sell your art or work with a certain company who will sponsor your art and/or sell your art. You could also try selling at a flea market. I don't know if this helps you at all or I understood the topic, but you need to support yourself in a way, even if it's small. If you save the maybe one day you could retire from work and live your dream
Thanks heaps guys You've really opened my mind to the thought of happiness in a workplace. Its all cool, I know my life will work out for the best, just love hearing how you guys get around.
my job is perfect for me, i love it! i am the manager and maintenance guy for an apartment building. it is a perfect job - i work from my home, i work alone, have flexible hours, get to solve problems... it is a very very relaxing and mellow job, i walk around all day in flip-flops and do different little projects... i get to talk to people during the day in a real casual way, there is hardly any "business talk". sometimes some tenants can be all kinds of problems, but not usually.
