Isn't it time to migrate to on-line educational system for our children?

And even if you do have friends, without school the only people you have to interact with IS your friends, which means your social development goes as far as conciliatory bullshit and that's about it.

 

I'm sure there are a lot of positives. Whether or not they out-weight the negatives I guess is a matter of opinion (and school). All I'm saying in this thread is that social development doesn't have to suffer through migration to a school system outside the box.

I may make mistakes and I may be wrong, but I'm not dishonest

 

Not what I am thinking at all.

That holds true of even those who are home schooled, they must meet the requirements.

It is not feasible to do as you suggest as the commitment would not be there on the part of students or guardians. The majority would not support it. Nor are the majority of people equipped to "teach" which is what this would mean. Parents/guardians would be required to assist.

Socialization would also not occur the same way for students. A large part of learning is learning in groups and working in groups. Peers are important.

It is difficult enough to ensure that students stay in school to complete an education, without the structure, policies and laws it would be uncontrolled chaos. It is difficult enough to control within the schools let alone to try to in private households.

There are very few adults that I know who would feel qualified to "teach" their children in all required subjects. Fair play as they are not teachers.

 

Would social development alternatives evolve along with educational means? Think outside the box.

 

I'm not thinking parents - i'm thinking interactive software with facilitators. Positive peers are important, i agree. But look around you - how pervasive has virtual friendships already become with facebook, twitter, texting and all that stuff, just within a very short time. I'm not saying those are good ,by the way, but they will evolve and somethings better will come out of the beginnings.

I love your signature. Could you have done that ten years ago?

 

No, but I would not have been talking to you 10 years ago. On second thought my signature I could of done 10 years ago and still do with a pen.

The issue is that parents/guardians will still have to take the responsibility. It will not happen.

If you have interactive software and facilitators within the confines of a class environment, it will work. Otherwise it will not.

Otherwise it still comes down to parents/guardians ensuring that the student is doing it. Most parents work and are not there to do so. To even get some students up and out to school is a nightmare, let alone to expect that they will just sit and do their studies on their own. Most parents would not feel that they are qualified to do the support teaching that would be needed.

As far a facebook and all the other tools that are out there for social interactions that is not a realistic picture is it. While they have their place they do not take the place of peers. Part of what students learn is from direct interaction with peers and teaching staff. Problem solving is done through those interactions. Life lessons.

 

There is no alternative though.

 

That's what AOL thought about dial-up.

 

Well, do you have one?

Schooling and socialization are not pieces of technology that can just be invented, or subject to the wills of bad business or marketing.

 

Yes, it's a simple gif animation. Those have been around for twenty years.

Your comparisons of technological advancements and education are ludicrous.

Let me ask this; 20 years ago I was writing BASIC code and batch files to get stuff done on a computer. Now all any moron has to do is click on pretty little icons with no thought or understanding of what is taking place.
Amoxyl, could you navigate your way around a computer with nothing but a keyboard and a flashing prompt like this; C:\, waiting for your input?

See all "progress" isn't in the "forward" direction. A lot of the technological advances you keep lauding in your posts have had the result of "dumbing down" the populace, not educate it.
Some time ago on HF I was in a thread where the comparisons between today and my youthful days and who had it harder. Someone posted that kids today have it harder. I responded that when I was in college I had to actually go to the library, look up books in the card catalog (remember the Dewey decimal system?) find the book, read it and bang out a report on a typewriter.
Nowadays all a person has to do is google it, type it up in some word processing program, spell/grammar check it, then click on the pretty little printer icon.

The way I see it technology has brought lots of advancements and comfort to our lives. But it has also resulted in people becoming lazier and stupider. That is why I get so pissy about all the inane drug questions here when the information is a few keystrokes away. But no, rather than actually research something and maybe have to read and even expand a persons vocabulary, they instead come on here and ask "Will smoking pot make me grow tits on my back?"

Every new version of Windows is touted as being more "user friendly". What that really means is "we made it so fucking simple any moronic imbecile should understand it" "Just click the pretty pictures and we'll do the rest"

 

Every kid I've ever known that was homeschooled had a terrible time fitting in when they got into college or went out into the "real world" because the only kids they were exposed to were neighbors and other homeschooled kids. That's not normal and that's not going to prepare you to function in the real world. I guess my social development didn't occur at school, but just through interacting with my family and neighbors? To suggest that the only social development that occurs in a traditional school setting is negative is preposterous. You kind of seem bitter about the public school systems, but just because you have a reason to dislike them doesn't mean that every child has a horrible time in public school. I was an awkward kid, I got bullied a fair bit, but I still hold very fond memories of it and owe every bit of my ability to even function like a human being in social situations to school.

 

ideas like this are the result of parents not prebeating there kids

 

Good points all. Then I guess we should all go back to abacuses (abaci??) and slide rules.

Or maybe your arguments support mine. Look what our current schools systems have wrought.

 

Look what our current school systems have wrought

 

My dad could work wonders with a slide rule. You can do some fairly complex math with one, but it does require some brains in the first place.

Maybe the better solution would be to pay educators what they are worth and get rid of politicians who use the educational budget as the source of funds anytime there is a budget problem.

 

I actually had a great time in school, not bitter at all. All i'm saying is that technology has evolved to a point that we should begin to think about using it in a way that will better educate our children at a significantly reduced cost. It won't happen overnight, but I'm thinking school system funding deficiencies along with municipal and state government bankruptcies are ominously close.

I know, I know - tax the rich fat cats and those horrible corporations.

 

I think the bigger problem is not being able to fire bad teachers because of too strong of unions.

 

And that's what creationists thought before Darwin, and radio thought before television.

The former are mired in stifling ignorance which, ironically, snuffs creativeness. The latter survive (barely) with snake oil salesmen, right wing talk shows and religious diatribes

 

Duck, I agree with a lot of what you say, but would you agree that it takes two signatures on those employment agreements (union contracts)? For every union signature there is one of a spineless administrator (who was probably a school teacher him or herself once or has a spouse that still is, and stands to reap the same benefits of raping the taxpayer.

 

I would expect it's more likely government signing those union agreements in the case of public schools (which are definitely more of the issue, and what I had in my mind)