Britain: Undercover Cops Spy on Eco Activists and Marry Them

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  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    In case you're wondering just how far undercover cops will go in pursuit of those terrible eco-activists, here's an enlightening story. It seems British police were assigned to monitor and disrupt various activist organizations. When it was discovered that one cop had been spying on a certain group, suddenly it was revealed that others were involved too, to the extent of sleeping with and even marrying their "targets".

    What is really unnerving is why would British law enforcement "target" non-violent environmental groups? And this story tells of one undercover cop who became a "key organizer" in the group "Reclaim the Streets" who he'd been monitoring for seven years!

    The official policy of police undercover is to not "sleep" with their "targets", yet that didn't stop a number of officers from doing exactly that.

    This is right out of J. Edgar Hoover's COINTELPRO handbook. You can be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN the same thing is happening still in the USA today...

    What a waste of human resources and money!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/19/undercover-policeman-married-activist-spy
     
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  3. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I think that would be really cool actually. . .

    I promise to become an eco-terrorist if the cops set me up with some really hot undercover booty!
     
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  5. OhSoDreadful

    OhSoDreadful Childish Idealist

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    what kind of intel are they gathering exactly? "the party in the streets is happening this saturday"? how is that useful at all? If you ask me they went undercover specifically to bed these women
     
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  7. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Yet again, I feel angry.
     
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  9. euphoriaforall

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    mmm busty undercovers.. thats hot
     
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  11. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    That sounds like a premise for either a really bad romatic comedy or a really creepy thriller...
     
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  13. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    i'm sure there we signs

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  15. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    A really really REALLY bad B class romantic thriller would be best.
     
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  17. skip

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    I love the way these cops become the "key organizer" for these groups. And when they get derided as being violent or terrorist, it's usually the result of the undercover cops fomenting the violence if not being directly responsible for it.
     
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  19. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Wasn't he a "man with a van" ... he got them from a-b?

    I think the group he infiltrated wanted to close down a power station.



    Police arrested 114 activists at a school near Nottingham in April 2009 in a controversial operation to prevent activists from breaking into the Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station the next day.
    Twenty-six activists were later charged with conspiracy to commit aggravated trespass. Of those, 20 admitted they planned to break into the power station to prevent the emission of around 150,000 tonnes of carbon.
    They were convicted after failing to convince a jury their actions were designed to prevent immediate greater harm from climate change. Handing down lenient sentences last week, a judge said they had been acting with "the highest possible motives".
    It is widely presumed that Kennedy tipped off police about the protest. But activists who spent four months working with Kennedy to hatch the plan now question whether he crossed a boundary and became an agent provocateur.
     
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  21. skip

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    That event has NOTHING TO DO WITH "RECLAIM THE STREETS" does it?

    So why even bring it up? Except to show that you regard all activist groups as having similar agendas and tactics, which is very far from the truth.

    This is the same problem & attitude with LAW ENFORCEMENT. They think that activism ITSELF is wrong and illegal.

    The police are not taught the basics of democracy and where to draw the line between groups that advocate peaceful change and those that are determined to use violent means (usually at the undercover cops insistence!)

    Let's get it straight. When the cops infiltrate groups they suddenly become more violent. That's the plan folks. And that's why ppl in such groups need to know how to spot the cops fomenting violence within them.

    And when cops infiltrate activist groups, it only makes the police look like true assholes, it breeds distrust of the police, leads to less cooperation (esp. when needed), and acts to undermine democratic principles.

    THESE ARE THE TACTICS THAT FASCISTS USE TO UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY!

    COINTELPRO is alive and very active at this moment and it's important for all groups to out the spies in their midst!
     
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  23. Oz!

    Oz! Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    blech it's fookin' idiots like these http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/4762481.stm and the ALF before them that mean genuine animal rights protesters will never be given half an inch to peacefully protest

    an awesome movie called I.D. deals well with british undercover cops, tho' it is centered around football hooligans, worth a watch :bobby:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owOZssHwd6M"]YouTube - ID | Movie trailer | Reece Dinsdale | Warren Clarke | Claire Skinner
     
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    I think just the fact that an officer was assigned to monitor a group for SEVEN YEARS and has nothing to show for it other than getting laid a lot, is such a waste of money and improper use of resources.

    Why spy on a group for 7 years if it has not done anything illegal during that time? You might as well be spying on the Tories, I'm sure you'll find plenty of illegal activity in that group! Like spying on domestic politicians and celebrities!
     
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  27. antithesis

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    I could not agree with you more.
     
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  29. Oz!

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    i'm not really sure what the complaint is here? the fact that no criminal activity was reported by the undercover cop in seven years ? maybe it was the undercover cops influence that prevented the organisation taking a criminal route to get their message accross.. pure speculation.. i'm not privvy to the details beyond the guardian article that was linked in the original post... it almost feels that if a police operation doesn't lead to arrests it is a failure.... when one would think that an operation that resulted in no laws being broken would be seen as a bigger success ... it would be cheaper to wait until laws were broken then arrest the perpetrators, sure... but is the cheapest route always the best?

    dunno about him sleeping with people during the operation.. maybe they should put police on bromide, or confiscate their james bond dvd's

    oh the politicians have been spied on, and they should be, i'm sure y'all heard of the expenses scandal that caused many politicians to resign, and some to face criminal convictions.. we actually enjoy investigating our politicians a lot... if i remember rightly tony blair has been up in front of an enquiry into the legality of the iraq war today.. i only look forward to the day when other countries who were part of that blood/oil thirsty coalition take their (then) leaders to task in the same way :mickey:
     
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  31. Delfynasa

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    It amazes me how hard the Powers That Be are work to
    create a world where little people have no voice and can
    trust NO ONE!!!!
    grrrrrrrrrr
     
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  33. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Why would an inside cop stop any group from partaking in illegal activity. If anything the cop would let it happen so that the police would have a reason to arrest the people involved. That's the whole reason the inside cop is there in the first place...
     
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  35. Oz!

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    i have no knowledge of how undercover cops operate in any case, much less this one ... i've never been an undercover cop, or chatted with one (that i know of)
     
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  37. thedope

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    New meaning to undercover anyway, or perhaps an older one.
     
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  39. Deleted member 157313

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    Why are these police officers allowed to be embedded in these groups for such a long time when there is no evidence of criminal behavour? They can only be gathering information on individuals as opposed to the workings of the group. This being said they can not be uncovering anything incriminating or arrests would be made! So how can the powers that be justify
    1. this type of operation
    2. the gross miss-spending of public funds?
    Of course in these days of "potential terrorist threats" they don't feel the need to justify anything!
     
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