Medical Marijuana advocates in Colorado call for full legalization

Discussion in 'Cannabis News' started by lunarverse, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Last Wednesday Medical Marijuana advocates in Colorado were calling for the full legalization of Cannabis as they feel that as long as the drug is illegal, they will always be stigmatized as drug users, not medical patients, as well as will be subject to legal harassment.

    That night at a meeting in Denver attorney Robert J. Corry stated, "No patient is really safe until it is legalized for everyone."

    Corry and other attorneys that were present at the meeting of medical patients and cannabis advocates agreed that law enforcement officials, legislators and state officials will never really act as if anyone has a right to use marijuana until it is made legal for everyone.

     
  2. Captain Tightpants

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    Thank you for posting this lunarverse, it is a shame that people who really need this medicine are either hesitant due to misinformation, or chastised due to lack of reason.

    I wonder though, if the surge of MMJ patients in CO, legitimate and recreational, will ultimately help the initiative or give the fools more ammunition to reject the peoples' plea.
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I think that the more people know about it, the more people openly support it (medical or recreational), and the more people talk about it and get it out in the public, the better.

    It doesn't matter if Prop 19 failed, it doesn't matter if all states or provinces and territories do or do not have medical cannabis. Every attempt is a step towards the truth about cannabis and a lot of people already know the truth, now it's simply a matter of getting everyone to care and stop being selfish (dealers and growers against legalization).

    The more it's discussed and considered in the open, the more people hear about it. The more people hear about it, the more they're bound to listen and learn the truth and start caring.

    As somebody wrote in an article the day after Prop 19 failed, "It's not a matter of 'if' but a matter of 'when'."

    I've read numerous articles about people who for years suffered from various medical maladies, going through all sorts of different medications, until somehow hearing others talk about medical cannabis and trying it out for themselves only to find that it works. That's what is important, that people hear about it.

    As long as people are talking positively about it in public settings, it can't hurt the initiative, only strengthen it.
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Corry is THE guy for mmj in Colorado.
    I don't recall if SAFER uses his services, but every smart patient/caregiver/dispensiary will.

    Legalization was up the same year as marriage (in)equality, so, 2006?
    It failed by a tiny margin.
    The Legislature will NEVER resolve this on their own, it is political suicide, so it will eventually get back in front of We the People.

    I think the porposal would have to work out age restrictions, driving restrictions and a tax structure, but the mmj work can be a good starting point.

    I hope that the authors of such a proposal will learn from the failures of Prop 19 in CA.
    We built the wheel, now we need to build the axle and the engine. And a steering wheel.
     
  5. Plant_Head

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    Who cares?

    It's not going to happen for some time yet, this isn't even news. Some freaking "important" stoners opinion. Medical is helping people enough in a very lenient and unbothered way. I think it's a joke and rather a dishonest business much of the Medical Marijuana scene, just way overly prescribed for any reason under the damn sun. It's just a way for people to more safely and legally get high. I bet the percentage of medical marijuana users that actually benefit legitimately and medically with serious illnesses is lower than 25%. I could be wrong, and yes I am opinionated, and not putting much research into this opinion, but just from what I have seen in available documentaries on the medical thing.
     
  6. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Cannabis patients and advocates

    news (nz, nyz)
    pl.n. (used with a sing. verb)
    1.
    a. Information about recent events or happenings


    This happened recently.

    It may not be pressing news, but it helps to keep it in people's faces and in their scope of attention. That's a good thing.

    And what is wrong with this? Should we not be able to enjoy nature safely?
     
  7. Plant_Head

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    Safer from ridicule, it seems cowardly. There is nothing necessarily more healthy and safer about medical bud unless you're buying some nasty brick from some shady characters.
     
  8. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    It isn't about being safer from ridicule. It's first and foremost about being safer from legal persecution. What's wrong with that? Should people go to jail for enjoying a plant, enjoying nature? Should they be torn apart from their families and sit and rot in prisons, ruin the rest of their lives with crinimal records. Younger people's lives are ruined including their employment future just because they enjoy something harmless that millions of others all enjoy.

    This isn't about being cowardly or trying to save face, it's much more serious than that. Look at how many citizens are shot and killed in drug raids each year in the United States. Here in Canada our Prime Monster is trying to pass a law that would impose minimum prison time for anyone growing 1-5 plants, and a minimum of two years for making brownies or extracting hash (such as a bud buster does). How many Canadians and Americans own a bud buster? Each one of those people could face 2 years in prison.

    The brownie prison time specifically targets medical cannabis patients because there are many with respiratory problems/lung cancer who cannot smoke their medicine and so they bake with it. He is trying to put legal medicinal users in jail. It's underhanded and it is wrong. It is cowardly.

    The current drug laws (for sake of this discussion the one's surrounding cannabis) in both the United States and Canada are abusive and criminal. It is not cowardly to try and protect oneself and one's families from these laws.
     
  9. Duck

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    I agree with this.

    I am really for legalization, have even spoken on the evils of prohibition at school; and I can conceivably see the medical marijuana movement doing more harm than good for the end of prohibition.

    What is really need is passionate dialogue about ending the War on Drugs, the harm it does, and the economic burden and lawlessness it creates.

    But how can you get anything done through blunt, honest tactics, when it won't be covered by any of the media outlets, and politician and citizen alike will go by unaware?
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Perhaps this is why, as Plant Head stated earlier, some are inclined to apply for medical cannabis when really they don't necessarily "need" it.

    I cannot see why it is cowardly to try to protect oneself from the harsh, sometimes deadly drug laws that exist in North America right now.

    The only "problem" I can see come from that is that some may fear that those who perhaps fake needing medical cannabis, once they have their card and are less subject to legal persecution, might give up on trying to help the legalization effort. However from what I've read, that hardly seems to be the case, though I'm sure there are exceptions.
     
  11. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I don't think the medical marijuana movement hurts the overall movement. For one thing it legitimatizes the drug as something that isn't fully evil. It also opens up the door both to people who have never smoked weed being urged to do it by doctors, and former baby boomers who last smoked weed 30 years ago and may have switched their minds on it during the crack/heroin/crime epidemic of the 80's, returning to it as ailments effect them in old age.

    More importantly though, it makes it socially acceptable when people have a dispensary open in their town and realize people aren't in the alley behind it smoking crack and raping people.

    Though there is an extreme, like in California, especially in LA. There's no need to have a dispensary for every 4 people in the city.
     
  12. lunarverse

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    That's a really big part of what medicinal cannabis has contributed to society so far. It's shown people that cannabis isn't some demon drug that causes people to turn into criminals after a few puffs and has shown a lot of previously "in the dark" people that it's a legitimate medicine with legitimate value and healing qualities.

    That's a really important thing considering there's so many people who are not necessarily against people using it, but are just unaware of it's effects and medicinal qualities.
     
  13. drumminmama

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    until it is rescheduled to allow more research, we won't have scientific results on the viability and limitations of cannabis.

    states with mmj have been proto-leaglized by popular votes.

    Do I think legalization should happen? Yes. BUT after we have a body of tested studies of the use, and misuse of the plant.

    heck, I just want the fiber and oils produced in the US.

    Remember when the legalization movement was on the back of the call for Hemp?

    I think mmj is now cast in that role.
    Not to say mmj is bad, I support the laws that allow it. But I do believe the patients can be used.
     
  14. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Been done, many times for many years.
     
  15. TheMadcapSyd

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    Yes there's actually numerous studies on marijuana both from the US and globally. Despite being Schedule 1 in terms of federal law, that status is near universally ignored. There's probably a hundred studies being conducted on marijuana in universities around the country right this second. In fact from a few years ago the big news on reefer was the fact a long running study showed no increase in the risk of lung cancer from smoking marijuana, and was conducted in the US.
     
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    I live in Pennsylvania .. Who really really gives a fuck about My state?..
     
  17. lovelifelexi

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    Its completely ridiculous something as safe and healthy as Cannabis is illegal yet much worse things are legal, like most prescription drugs.
    Eventually these repressive laws will be done away with.
     
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