The Accursed Christ?

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  1. Psychotheosophy

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    We speak from the abundance of our heart.
     
  3. Psychotheosophy

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    Actually, I found a number of Bible quotes in this forum.

    So,

    Christ and St. Paul desired to be accursed [(2 Cor 5:21), (Gal 3:13), and (Rom 9:3)].
    Which compares to the scapegoat of Leviticus 16:21-22.

    How do you understand this?
     
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    I have no desire to consider the question. There is no value in sacrifice, blood sacrifice to gods to keep in good favor is nothing more than superstitious barbarism.
     
  5. Psychotheosophy

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    Love has value.

    The ideal of love can guide our rules, norms, and laws.
    Therefore, rules, norms, and laws have value since they can be guided by love.
    I understand that this is basically how the forums rules were explained,
    That, essentially, and considering the flexibility in the rules,
    Love is the ideal to be followed.

    What do you value (desire?)?
     
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    being
     
  7. Psychotheosophy

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    I value existence too,
    But if it were filled with hate,
    I think that it would be horrible.

    As a Catholic,
    It would be similar to,
    A man receiving the Eucharist,
    Repeatedly, over many many years,
    Contaminated by some bacteria,
    Such as with excrement.
     
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    Physical existence is sensational and our lives consist of a series of sensations one followed by the other, some of which we call pleasant and some not so. This is true no matter your station or location in life.

    My desire is an unfettered being, wanting not just enough to get by, but unequivocal mastery. To have all the good there is for me in any given moment.
    This state is called peace.
     
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    lunarverse The Living End

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    Will you not find more peace when you're free from desire? If your desire is not met, is there conflict?
     
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    Desire is simply the psychic notation of the physicals laws of motion, Just as intent is the psychic notation for gravity. The opposite of peace is not desire. The opposite of peace is attack and defense, and where either exist, the other is bound to be in attendance.
     
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    Not the opposite, but as long as we desire something we are lead by that desire. I wouldn't think that one could be free as long as they have a desired outcome or as long as they have expectation. Would desire not distort peace?

    I may just be having a hard time understanding this;
     
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    Is it a prison then, to feel the impulse to breath?


    All creation shares a similar intent, that is, to be. From the hardness of a mineral to the fluff of a dandelion seed, everything is in motion. Everything has a vibrational character.
     
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    It is a life sentence.

    Desire then is simply the motions of something that is being, in its state of being?

    If so, I like that definition.
     
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    heh



    Emotions are a sensational representation of physical phenomena. Sensational representations of things like gravity and inertia and friction. Emotions represent the tone of a physical attitude in relationship to it's environment, so to speak.

    Tone comes from the Greek meaning "stretching". The human body is a communication device, we can both send, receive and, achieve or be in polarity, depending on our composition.
     
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    Anyone who has a goal,
    Chooses some "good," over some lack of "good."

    So,
    How do you distinguish peace from apathy,
    Such as being lukewarm, or having little desire?

    From my example,
    I think it's odd that a group of people,
    Who were baptized into the cross and resurrection,
    (Maybe they didn't have faith from the beginning.)
    Would work together to manipulate a child like that.

    Would you consider that they are goal-oriented or apathetic?
     
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    We can only be apathetic, I suppose, to a certain extent. We forever, it seems, feel the impulse to breathe. An absence of anxiety does not mean an absence of feeling.

    Sorry, I don't know what example you are referring to.
     
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    So,
    You see no distinction between peace and apathy?

    The poisoning of a man,
    From the time he was a child,
    Which was mentioned in my post #7.
     
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    I do not see apathy as a meaningful description. As I pointed out, we are inspired always to breathe.

    I wouldn't judge them at all.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    Actually a very good question.

    Galatians 3:13-14 says; "Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hanged upon a stake.” The purpose was that the blessing of Abraham might come to be by means of Jesus Christ for the nations, that we might receive the promised spirit through our faith."

    So The Christ, although sinless, took on our sins to open the way for us to become sinless before God.
     

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