out of: 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-AcO-MiPT does any one have comparable experiences? what would would you recommended? what was your fav? does anyone have a trytamine they would suggest trying?
Ive only tried 4-aco dmt from those. Dmt is probably my favorite and ive only smoked it so far but I have some maoi now for pharmahuasca, so its versatile in that sense. Dpt is a good one too.
4-ho-dipt - best visuals of any drug ive ever done. including mushrooms, lsd, 2c-c,-e,-i,-t-7, 5-meo-dmt
I've also only tried 4-Aco-DMT of the four substances listed, but I can vouch for it being extremely visual and an allround pleasant psychedelic. It can be really intense at higher doses though. But I would love to try all of the above, as I connect better with tryptamines in generel compared to phenethylamines.
really? everything i've read about 4-ho-dipt was that it was pretty weak compared to 4-ho-mipt and 4-aco-dmt. 4-ho-mipt sounds nice - supposed to be "erotic" and "vibrational"
apples and oranges i've only done 4-aco-dmt and 4-ho-mipt, i found the latter to be much heavier on the body but still extremely enjoyable, while the former is possibly the best out of these 4-subbed trypts. super clean, super deep
4 aco DMT was definitely the best in one for the long acting ones. 4 ho DIPT was great too but seemed to lack something the other ones have. definitely really good for recreational / social trips. 4 ho MIPT was good too, but not as clean on the body as 4 aco DMT; much more body tension. but the visuals reminded me much more of DPT & 2c-e than the other trypts. but out of all trypts, the one that stays in my memory the most is by far DPT.
i'd take 4-aco-dmt over 4-ho-mipt [the two i've tried], but 4-ho-mipt was still a great trip! but thoughts of my 4-aco-dmt experiences still leave me in awe, and those 4 or 5 trips were well over a year ago. 4-ho-mipt had AMAZING auditory effects, but wasn't so profound.
did you get much body tension on 4-ho-mipt? and did the auditory effects make music way better, or did it affect everything?
Has anyone any experience with 4-HO-MET? Having just gotten some 4-HO-MiPT I dunno if it's worth seeking out 4MET, whether or not it's substantially different enough. Any comparisons between the two would be great. edit: Can anyone comment on the stability/storage of 4-HO-MiPT, and the recommended dosage for the fumarate compound. Was considering 20mg, though unsure whether my reading online has been referring mostly to fumarates or HCls.
plenty actually... these two are very different... - 4-ho-mipt has some spiritual potential unlike the second + mentioned above amazing auditory effects with some spectacular tracers (which is pretty rare in my case [only solid doses of acid and 5-meo-mipt]) - more introvert than second - 4-ho-met is rather candy psychedelic, good for more social trips... lots of giggling, and overwhelming aura of absurd + spectacular cev's in oral doses above 30mg = pure fun... almost no possibility od bad trip -and about storage of ho-mipt: i still have some in fridge (from last january) - just locked in ziplock bag - no signs of degradation or potency loss. it's more stable that i thought and i heard a lot about its hygroscopic properties... peace
felix, i think that most of what you read online (at least from the last couple years) is referring to the fumarate. most vendors seem to deal with fumarates when possible, since they are supposed to be more stable than HCl salts. 20-25 mg should be a good starting dose. effects seem to vary pretty dramatically, so 20 mg could be pretty intense or barely a tease. i was very cautious (still am) with dosing 2ce - i started with 12 mg. but with 4-aco-dmt i started with 25 mg fumarate, and plan to do the same with 4-ho-mipt (i have one ~25 mg sample of the fumarate). just saying, i personally, wouldn't be worried of that being too high of a dose.
I've done tons of trypts & in all kinds of combos, the most visually stunning was 30mg (oral) each 4-aco-det & 4-aco-met. The most sensational was approx. 25mg (snorted) each 4-aco-dmt & 4-ho-mipt--also the biggest mindfuck but on the comedown so introspective. I don't know though, you probably should not take advice from me since it seems everyone here thinks I'm fucking nuts... Shit at least not nuts enough to do 30g of M1 in a month (& I'm on 635mg M1 + 30mg 2ce both snorted as I speak--which is a fucking rad combo, btw). But DMT is probably the most intense trypt, too bad it only lasts for like 15 min. When smoked.