state your clinical disorders!

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  1. Meliai

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    it worked for me with a severe case of depression. I think our thoughts influence the chemical make-up of our brain. I doubt your brain is chemically different by nature, it probably has more to do with environmental factors and thought patterns.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    Eh I think something closer to the opposite is true. There is ample evidence to suggest damage to the frontal lobe, hippocampus and other areas involved in thinking/memory have pretty drastic effects on individuals personalities.
     
  3. Meliai

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    damange to parts of the brain is different than simply being born with a different chemical make-up.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    going by what you said One suffering from alzheimers should be able to rethink their brain back to normal and fix the deteoriated hippocampus.

    Being born with a different chemical make up could be considered damage depending on what affliction we are talking about.
     
  5. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Did you see many civilian casualties going on down there?
     
  6. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Transsexualism, nature wanted me to be a special snowflake so I got something unique.
     
  7. IveBeenThere2

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    according to the DEA im addicted to marijuana :hat:

    :patriot: :tree:
     
  8. deleted

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    yes.. but I can neither adDress or Undress the issues , it is out of my hands..
    :).. a dress..
     
  9. Aesthete

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    Schizotypal personality disorder, though I kind of doubt the diagnosis. Depression too, but I don't think much of that as a diagnosis. I'm pretty certain I have OCD though.
     
  10. oc_love47

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    Bipolar disorder
    Generalized anxiety & OCD tendencies
    A.D.D.
    No longer anorexic or EDNOS

    I'm on medication and I'm doing well. Woo

    Oh and I am opioid dependent or at least I was. I'm not really experienced when it comes to addiction terminology.
     
  11. Meliai

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    as you said, alzheimers is a result of a deterioating hippacampus. Thats a bit different than having an abnormal level of seratonin or dopamine in your brain.

    I don't really buy into the idea that people are born with a different chemical makeup in so far as depression and anxiety are concerned. Babies are not born depressed or anxious. I believe those are learned behaviors based on environmental stimuli and thought pattern, as i already said. I also think they are part of normal human emotions and labeled as disorders in order for the pharmeceutical industry to make money.

    I think a lot of mental disorders are caused by our modern lifestyle. There is a lot of time for idleness in today's society. 200 years ago a farmer would rise at sunrise and work until sundown, leaving no time for crippling thoughts that lead to depression and anxiety. Now people work desk jobs, they spend their time watching tv or doing various other mindless and idle tasks that leave plenty of time to dwell on everything that is wrong in their life. I know a lot of people that spend their time sitting alone in dark apartments, eating unhealthy food, watching tv, and doing absolutely nothing to make themselves happy, and yet they wonder why they are constantly depressed.

    I believe a strenous exercise routine every day can counteract depression more powerfully than drugs that simply numb the mind. I also am a huge believer in the power of positive thinking. Depression, for me at least, was simply a rut of negative thinking. Once I pinpointed the problem, I began catching myself thinking negative thoughts and instead put a positive spin on everything. I really believe doing this can have an effect on the chemicals in your brain.

    I also used to have pretty severe anxiety, and I counteracted this by being proactive instead of ruminating on my thoughts.

    I just really don't buy into the whole idea of depression being something outside of one's control. I think the pharmeceutical industry has made a killing from convincing people that they have no control over their emotions.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    Depression is a very small, albeit pervasive disorder compared to the various types of mental disorders that exist out there. I don't think that bolded sentence can be generalized to all mental disorders and even in the case of depression there are people who have had have had it and responded best to medication as well.

    And my alzheimers example is not really different than the serotonin or dopamine example, Im guessing serotonin plays a role in alzheimers but I know overproduction of dopamine in the frontal lobe plays a role in schizophrenia. Serotonin and dopamine are just chemical messengers, these messengers travel to different parts in the brain. The hippocampus and frontal lobe are specific locations that receive the chemical messages.
     
  13. seizedbyanger

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    Meliai-
    I'm a whiney little bitch? You're an ignorant fuck who made a generalized statement about my life because you think you're a fuckin' know it all. So why don't you get off your high fucking horse and grow the fuck up and realize that all this bullshit you've fed into thinking it's 'mainstream' to be against big pharma is fucking ridiculous. So I need medicine because I'm not some hippie fuck like you are. Deal with it. If I needed medication for cancer would that make me some kind of fucked up retard too because I should be able to cure my cancer with a little bit of 'wishful thinking'? You're a troll and a fucking retard. Take a fucking hint. You don't like the way I think & feel? Well this is a fucking free speech forum and I'll say whatever the fuck I want to fucking say, and if you're gonna get all fucking butt-hurt and generalize MY LIFE because of whatever fucked-up stereotypes you've allowed your sad self to absorb via the internet, you go ahead and be an uneducated little **** about it. As I said, this is a free speech forum, after all. :)
     
  14. seizedbyanger

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    Oh, and this is top quote you:
    "and I think you're a whiny little bitch that probably relies on your so called mental disorders to get attention and can't open your mind wide enough to take personal responsiblity for how much your life sucks"

    I believe if you go back through every post I've ever made, you'll find that everything I've ever done is JUSTIFIED and I have taken responsibility for EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE EVER DONE. Also, is my mind open? Yes. Why don't you open that little fucking box you call a mind and realize that there are other options and opportunities for people who are as fucked up in the head as I am.

    So shut your trap and slob my knob you little bitch, because by the seems of things, you could use a pill to chew too. :)

    Edit: Also. If I used my 'mental disorders' to get attention, don't you think I'd have people groveling for me? "Oh seized, you've got a chemical imbalance in your brain. I feel so bad for you! I'm so glad I only have cancer/diabetes/heart disease and and am not cursed by your terrible affliction!" And also, don't you think I'd be living off the government? If I wanted to, I could apply for disability and I COULD FUCKING GET IT! But did I? No. Am I going to? No.
     
  15. Archemetis

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    everyone is responsible for their own health and well being. sure, everyones got a hard luck story....who feels it knows it. but at the end of the day there is nothing outside of yourself that is capable of determining how you respond to the expirences you are confronted by. "emotional disorders" are mostly a responce to enviornmental factors.

    depression and anger are easy lifestyle choices if it makes it okay to owe nothing to nobody
     
  16. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I have major depressive disorder, general anxiety disorder, severe social anxiety disorder, and psychophysiological insomnia.

    I also suffer from perpetual laziness.
     
  17. def zeppelin

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    I have a very rare autoimmune disorder that targets my t-cell count and makes me vulnerable to fungal infections (My mom had the worse form where it made her vulnerable to viruses). The rare part is that I can have a healthy t-cell count for a few months but then it will dip down to below normal, so it runs in cycles; oddly some have it run as though it were on a menstrual cycle. It'll make me feel lethargic/depressive and at this time I usually get esophagitis/oral thrush... which I'll tell ya, really sucks. [My doc]
     
  18. guerillabedlam

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    Most disorders have been shown to have a genetic component as well, I'm not sure what constitutes an 'emotional disorder.' Enviornmental factors certainly can play a role but the fact of the matter is when you are born you are not born with the same brain as you have as an adult so saying that just 'you don't have depression as a baby therefore there is no internal reason to believe you can have it later in life' is a completely over simplified way of looking at it. You also can't have an orgasm as a baby are we going to argue that having an orgasm is due to purely enviornmental factors?

    I do think there is an over diagnosis of mental disorders but just because you were angsty teenager suffering from depression and grew out of it doesn't mean that there aren't those who are seriously debilitated from it. Just saying a veteran who suffers from ptsd who comes back all fucked up and saying 'oh well they're choice to go to war, they gotta deal with it.' is a pretty cold way of viewing things. Now I'm not going to pretend I feel compassion for every person with a supposed mental disorder but I'm also not going to pretend that their aren't some people out there with fucked up mental shit that is all within the realm of their control.
     
  19. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    note to self, mental illness is a touchy subject...

    :leaving:
     
  20. IveBeenThere2

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    wow,...yea this is a free speech forum, but when you type stuff like that you get a lot less attention and respect..

    btw, the more cuss words you write really only makes YOU look a lot less intelligent..

    :love:
     

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