America: You will be jailed for trying to improve your kids lives

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TheMadcapSyd, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    She was convicted by a jury? that is what is disgusting... a jury actually thought this was fair??.. really?.. fuck.

    she was only serving 10 days right, so the kids likely went to the grandfather who will then have to drive them to the school in their original district.

    Petition for a reduced sentence if anyone cares to sign it is on the right side of this page ---
    http://criminaljustice.change.org/p...-bolars_unfair_sentencing_for_fraud_and_theft

    *edit*
    How nice, apparently they only made her serve 9 days.
     
  2. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    Its ridiculous that the education system is set up to be paid for on a local level. It should be a state level to ensure that every school in the school system benefits equally. Schools in lower income areas are the schools that need the most funding in order to ensure that students who didn't get a fair advantage in life at least receive a good education. I find it really fucked up that the judicial system is demanding she pay back the 30,000 dollars in tuition. That is a blatant admission that our system is set up to reward the rich and punish the poor.
     
  3. mighty_thor

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    One of the things that gets me the most upset is institutionalized injustice. The older I get, the more angry I get when I see violations of human rights, and when things that utterly defy common sense elevated to the status of legal precedent. Over the last few years I have become nearly apoplectic about the legal and political directions our country is taking. Sadly, there is little any of us seem to be able to do to actually bring about better justice, human rights and dignity, and basic common sense. However, I still think we have to try to help these causes in whatever peaceful ways we can.

    I do not know the full details of this case, and I suspect that none of us will ever be allowed to see all of the information. The media often manufactures a sensational story just for the ratings that will be generated by covering a controversy that they created.

    However, in a case like this, it certainly seems that where there's smoke, there's fire. In other words, I can't imagine that what was done here is remotely just.

    As TheMadcapSyd said:
    That is the incredible injustice that seems to have been done here... kicking someone who is down, and ruining any chance that they will ever have to recover.

    Yes, a crime was committed, and yes, the financial cost to the system probably was close to the $30,000 figure. Still, it does seem excessive to totally destroy a human being's chances for any future life under these circumstances, and a felony conviction comes close to doing that.

    As is always the case in situations like this, the real losers are the children. They had the least to do with creating the problem, and their entire lives are probably F***ed up because of this ruling.

    As to what lunarverse said:
    It has always been this way. Throughout human history, those with money have been able to do what they wanted, and those without have not.

    While in many cases this may be unfair, it also makes sense. Money is how humans keep score. Don't you want the freedom to do whatever you what to do with the money you have? So you say you don't have that much money and you worked hard for what little you have? It doesn't matter how little you have... do you want someone to take away all of it? I didn't think so.

    Some people earn their money, others inherit it. However, the real problem is not that some folks have wealth, the real problem is when those with money mistreat and abuse those without. Great wealth should carry a moral obligation to handle your wealth with wisdom and compassion towards those who are not as well off.

    Yes, Meliai, the national government provides for public education, but some cities and other local governments decide that they will fund their own system to get better results. I don't see any problem with buying a better education for your own children if you want to. But if a basic public education was of a better quality, I don't think we'd have have as many problems like this case.

    I don't know what to do about this particular case. I just hope for true justice and mercy where possible for all human beings. From what little information is available here, it certainly seems like this case does not represent either of those great values.
     
  4. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I know a lot of people who do the very same thing. We've let somebody use our address years ago because we were babysitting their kid every day so it was convenient for her to use our address. The Elementary school my kids attend/ed has consistently ranked in the top 10, top 20 in the state for public schools. It's not the school my kids are supposed to attend, but when my now 17 year old daughter was in 4th grade she was accepted into the GATE (Gifted And Talented Education) program and that was the closest school that offered it. Ever since we have gotten the inter district transfer. They get about 600 requests for inter-district transfer to that school every year.

    But to prosecute people over something like that is just fucked-up beyond comprehension. Just un-fucking-believable.
     
  5. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Wow, that is just so ridiculous that it is hard to believe that it is real. It is so sad to see a families lives be ruined like that.
     
  6. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Some people earn their money, others inherit it. However, the real problem is not that some folks have wealth, the real problem is when those with money mistreat and abuse those without. Great wealth should carry a moral obligation to handle your wealth with wisdom and compassion towards those who are not as well off.

    AND THERE IT IS. The whole problem right there. [​IMG] As Thor said.
     
  7. djomalley

    djomalley Fanch King

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    This is extremely outrageous... Surprised I missed this thread until now. When I was in Middle School my mother had me go to one that was out of our district so I could continue to be around the same peers I was with during Elementary School. We just used my aunt's address. Jail time, probation, and a career stripped away from a human being over something like this makes me... well I have no words for it. The judge and jury involved in this case should be fed to cannibals somewhere.
     
  8. snowtiggernd

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  9. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    This is sickening. So is the state of the public school system.
     

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