Hey guys, a friend of a friend is thinking about trying acid. He smokes weed occasionally, but otherwise, has done nothing else. He thinks he wants to go into the world of psychedelics to expand his mind, improve musical creativity, and to overall have a great time. He has done his research, and has spent hours reading about acid, and wants to do it badly, but he has a few concerns. First of all, he is afraid of bad trips. He has heard stories of people going crazy from acid, or never coming down from their trip etc. He is afraid it could fuck him up for life. He is also afraid of flashbacks and the like. The possibility that it might not really be acid also scares him. He wants to take one hit at the beach on a summer's day. Should he do it? He is 15 btw. Also, he wants to know, how long until he would be able to face his parents and act straight again? Thanks
"First of all, he is afraid of bad trips." He shouldn't do it if he's afraid, because fear increases the chances of a bad trip. "He is also afraid of flashbacks and the like." Why? "The possibility that it might not really be acid also scares him." If it's not acid then it'll be a dud. They won't put heroin or anything like that onto an acid tab, and even if they did, it wouldn't be enough to seriously effect him.
If he has done the research and wants to really bad - It will probably be ok. Most people are a bit nervous the 1st time. If his head is on straight he'll be just fine. As far as mom & dad goes - he could probably face them trippin but it would be NO FUN. Give it 5 or 6 hours or until he feels like he is pretty much back. People who trip are not fucked up wild people - They are mostly just awe struck by their new eyes as they see the world around them. Also - find someone who has tried this particular acid if he is worried about whether it is really acid or not.
Yes, it could fuck him up for life. Yes, he could have a bad trip. Yes, he could have flashbacks. If he's unsure that he can risk these things (that is, he's afraid that they will happen, INSTEAD of what he wants) then he should not be taking acid. Also, if he's 15, he should really not be making that choice with his future, especially being unsure as it is.
And maybe a car will careen out of control when he comes out of his house this morning and kill him - Or perhaps a meteorite will hit him on the way to the bus - or maybe he will get to school and an unbalanced gun nut will blow him away. I really think the best thing for him to do is crawl under his bed and roll up into a fetal position. Then he can be pretty sure nothing bad will happen. Yes - 15 may be a little young - but 15 now is not the 15 I knew when I was 15.
Just go for it bro. My "friend" was just like you and was scared about taking it from reading all the bad stuff that could hapeen during the trip. I was like fuck it I'm just gonna go for it. He was tripping pretty well and at one point it started turning bad but he just thought whatever just have fun and relax and he avoided making it worse and turned the trip back around to awesome
How exactly could it fuck me up for life? and what's the chances ? I REALLY want to do this, but i am just afraid and nervous given the taboo associated with acid and all these stories i fucking hear. if i trip at the beach i think i'll be fine, i'm just afraid i won't, if that makes sense.
Crap man - if you are uncomfortable - wait. You know you and if you are pretty comfortable with yourself you'll be fine. Like an earlier poster said, if things starts going south all you've got to do is think "this is the drug talking" and you can turn it into anything you want to. It will not be a life shattering experience. People who don't know acid give it way too much significance. It simply opens up part of your brain that you haven't used before. Don't fall for the scare tactics.
given up giving bullshit answers to chemistry questions and giving crappy drug use advice instead? @HumanBeingIntellect - Just do it if you want to, being a kid is about trying things and having fun. Screw the nazi pricks who try to stop you. In terms of actual real life risk the fact is it's pathetically small so don't be scared - although it's normal to be apprehensive and excited, don't worry about that, it's human, would be the same if you were 30, or 50. Some tips to help you (or your mate) - don't do it alone, have someone you trust there with you, doesn't have to be a "sitter", just do it together. regarding bad trips - it couldn't be simpler. If anyone ever has a "bad trip" (they really aren't that common, and really aren't the horror stories you read about, the internet attracts people who like to mince it up and grab attention, so does the media, or as film/tv constructs; the 99.9% of normal people out there just get on with shit instead of writing a load of crap, they're the ones out there with a big smile on their faces enjoying life) - just change the ambient scenery, the negative aspect of the trip will disappear. E.G. move them to a different room, if the previous lights were dark, make it light, if light give them shade. Change the music. Put a different t-shirt on. Keep them company. It will correct almost instantly, the trip will be over soon anyway, nothing at all to fear in any way, media bullshit. Do something as a "mission", something to do rather than sit there freaking out, getting a cup of water together is all it can take to help after calming them (or you) down. Nothing at all to fear! You will not go crazy. You will come down. You won't suddenly appear in a tv teen drama having a "bad trip". It's simply great fun and temporary - that's why we all do it. End of story. It is possible (very unlikely) you have some minor, unpleasant feelings. If you dwell on them they will increase, man up and do something totally different, they go away. It probably won't happen. It absolutely will not fuck you up for life. You'll have a giggle for a few hours, perhaps think you've learned some deeply significant shit (probably you haven't, but you might). This is the reality of experimenting with drugs without the bullshit. The only exception might be if you suffer from mental health issues - if so, I suggest not playing with drugs, lots of fun to be had not taking them, they're simply not for you. Afterwards, you'll feel a little washed out, nothing bad, slight visuals will remain for a while, sky might seem more blue, things a bit wobbly if you stare at them. That's it, but the following evening you'll be 100% cool. Flashbacks - I'm not even going into that one in depth it has that little significance, you're trying a drug once, not setting yourself up as one of the grateful dead's roadies. Not going to happen. Remove it from your mind. Not having real acid - yeah, this one is real I'm afraid, so some help: do your homework, the music and party forums will always have guys saying what was good in the area, acid comes on blotters mostly and they have patterns and names. Do some research. Speak to mates or their old siblings perhaps? If you've found someone mail order or on a forum, be very careful, you're likely to be ripped off, especially at your age, most reputable guys won't help as courts look on that differently. Try to find the ever present loser who serves up to guys your age in every community, talk to your weed guy, he'll be able to dig around probably if you're persistent. No shortage of acid around. Can't help with supply. But have a great time trying it! :2thumbsup: Ignore any and all useless self righteous wankers who try to stop you having fun. Pretty much every time I've seen someone have any issues I've seen the guy before taking it and known instantly he's the kind of little selfish bitch drama queen to fuck the night up for everyone by playing up. Not saying there's not genuine exceptions, a few years from now if you keep up taking strong psychedelics you'll hit a stumble, and this will make more sense, it'll happen as an adult with background stress in your life and you'll be pushing things a bit hard at the time, but the experience won't be that bad, and you'll recognise it and get over it because you've listened to advice like this, and you'll be fine afterwards, just realising it's time for a short break to fix the real issues that made you feel that way. Have a blast! It's awesome!
You are excelent at trivializing everything and making reality shattering things sound easy. "you might feel discomfort... just man up". Have you ever taken any psychedelics?
Plenty thanks, I love them, a personal passion, I've given up upper and downers and now work with experimental psychedelics professionally while personally contributing to the mushroom community on a commercial scale and developing new DMT analogues in my lab. You think I just make the then give them away? Try reading the forums for parties full of people that actually enjoy drugs, not whine about them like little girls. Or God forbid trying real life out? What is up with your post count? 1000s of posts of complete delusional crap. After the idiot posts claiming chem knowledge that were quickly shown up as total lies I'm surprised you're around, if I were ill too and just lied trying to sound important I imagine I'd be so ashamed I'd change my username. Christ, when I was your age the idea of sitting in front of a computer was hilarious, I was out with everyone else having fun and trying new things. Why go scaring kids for no reason except wanting to sound important, you're only fucking 19 you little scrote. In fairness there's some pretty knowledgeable 19 year olds knocking around the drugs scene, you're not one. It's just an acid trip. Just because you couldn't handle it and instead of going out doing them sit in posting on web forums pretending you're some guru doesn't mean you should scare normal well adjusted people with your bullshit. Try getting your information though actual education and experience, not watching tv and reading wikipedia. It's embarrassing to read your posts, I haven't seen an honest one yet. I just went to answer a question asked on kratom to find it answered correctly already by some 4 or so posts down, then surprise surprise your stupid ignorant unfounded and unrequested comments talking complete shit with seemingly random scientific jargon thrown in. Was going to pull you up on it but he already did a post or two later. You're still talking shit 3 or 4 pages in I think. It's past laughable, if you were more charming I'd be concerned, sad it's a cry for help from a damaged child, but as it is it's just embarrassing to read. People mostly seem to feel sorry for you. Do you honestly not see it? To the OP - don't buy into this kind of shit, it's exactly the negative bollocks normal people will tell you about. Full of shit puerile, attention seeking drama queen pining, if you want to gauge the quality of someone's advice check their previous posts in the user profile and see how well they know the subject. High post count usually means no life, not more experience. Check for yourself though. click on user names them "my posts" to very quickly learn who knows right from wrong.
I think my last 4 or so posts went into the specifics of bleeding edge information of alkaloids fungi can produce to add quality information to a thread and gave specifics on how to correctly and safely make actual one-pot meth, followed up by a string of PMs that asked for help and giving it - if you guys are reading jump in if you feel my specific instructions on how to succeed worked or not. I don't trivialise, I realise. It's scientific fact, not the speculative bullshit you spout every few minutes after a quick google or wikipedia search. The fact that after the science most guys still enjoy having a good time and don't think it's a bad idea to take drugs they know are safe means we let others know, but do highlight the **actual** dangers, unlike your self-serving diarrhoea posts.
