First I'll say, I didn't watch obama on youtube, i had way more important things to do. Drug courtsrofl... we already have them... Last time i was arrested was 2004(knock on mahogny), i had just turned 18 and graduated HS. Got pulled over, had around 500$ in my pocket in mostly 10's and 20's. Officer looks through all the money and finds an empty weed bag, has tiny fucking peices anyone would throw away, got charged for possetion(that is spelled wrong..?). Went to drug court and through the "Drug Diversion Program"... It worked well, 12 clean consecutive piss tests took me over a year, but they didn't kick me out, but thanks to that i have no criminal record, and the only thing in Diverted me from was riding in cars with pot.. ...sigh... when are they going to wake up?
my ?? What does the leader of the lol free world need to be on youtube for?? When The broadcast is on open air free Television.
Probably because it makes people feel empowered. As a matter of fact, if you look at the thread by Lunaverse, i am pretty sure he answered the question i voted for and linked. That is beside the point though cause i could care less.... But, people get all happy when the president address something the want him to specifically... Makes 'em feel all warm and fuzzy even if its the same old BS...
I dont know where i stand on legalization. To be honest, i dont think it should be legalized. Ive been smoking for probably 4 or 5 years now, although i quit around christmas. And everyone i know locally who smokes weed, is a bum. They have no goals in life all they do is sit around and get high, everyday. Then they go out and do dumb shit like arsen and shit and harrass old people and its just retarded. Plus, everybody says ohhhh weed is the safest man noone dies from it. Yeah okay. But ive seen people be changed by it, my one friend is like permanently retarded now from it, anytime he gets high now he literally goes insane. It leads to criminal activity, and just nothing really. No matter what kind of argument you make against this its true, when you get high all you wanna do is get high the next day. And what are you gonna get out of life getting high everyday and sitting on your ass? Thats what losers do dude. Now i agree, it all depends on the person because some may get high and just be normal good citizens, but the bad would deffinitely outweigh the good. Then all the drug dealers would switch to selling other drugs since weed would no longer be the cash crop, and youd have heroine and crack being pushed on people even more. No good would come from legalization except maybe more tax money which what do we need more taxes for, honestly, we're taxed enough. If you cant handle life without a substance then maybe you need to get a life
You just hang out with some shitty people and personally have a drug dependence problem. Sometimes I smoke weed often, other times I don't smoke weed at all, your persona experience doesn't make it universal. Considering the amount of people who smoke weed in both high school and college and managed not to sit around thinking about getting high all day and do fine I'd in fact say the opposite is true. And if people are going to buy weed, why do you want the money going to some douchebag drug dealer vs government coffers helping everyone. They wouldn't move onto selling other drugs, that's asinine. Most weed dealers only sell weed so the weed they smoke is free.
Well that is true, but also you have to consider environmental factors... Kids growing up in the ghetto or whatever you care to call it that sell heroin probably started selling weed.. thats just my opinion and could be completely false statistically.
That's just the whole gateway argument in different form though, it's like those people if they were the older one in their group also got liquor for people too at one point. Lots of people get liquor for people, lots of people sell weed, most don't move onto crack and smack. (Anecdotally, my friend's main H dealer back in the day was actually a 40 year old something former 82 airborne paratrooper.) Though really if anything it's more reason to fully legalize so young people can't be drawn into the drug dealing world of easy money so early like most dealers are. It also lessens exposure to other drugs if you can get weed from a store(or have older people do it for you like everyone does with liquor) vs getting it from a drug dealer who's inevitably is going to be like "yo I know this guy with percs, you know anyone that wants any"
yes but now youre also upping the chance of marijuana abuse, because now instead of not being able to get it sometimes because dealers are dry, you could go to the store and buy all you want. also idc what you say, a street dealer who cant sell weed anymore will move on to other drugs or robbery or other hustles.
:2thumbsup: *edit* The last part is also a good point, instead of the kids starting out with weed, they will start with crack.... either way though, these kids will be into some negative shit..
yeah coming from the kid that Need Ecstasy Help, everyone has the right the drive to bar and get smash on alcohol, stand in line getting them lotto tickets and tobacco and motherfuckers like me that works, and put his ass on the line, so some dick head could pump oil in the middle east,.,.. I cant smoke a marijuana cigarette when I please???.. please spare me the bullshit politics and fuck off.. could you just imagine what I learned in 8 yrs dealing with Iraq?.. I could black out the superbowl for 1/2 the cable subscribers in Pittsburgh.... like drinking beer and watching football?? I dont, I like to sit in my house, play my guitar and not bother a fucking soul!! Push me, see what happens.. Im not bombarding the television with gladiator bullshit, And Im not a millionaire with free healthcare.. I cant even get a burn cream at the clinic without being harrased over my coverage. geezeisfocickchips I have Veterans health care. Im so so so sorry Im not the Rapistburger and you dont recognize me or come running to my aid when I fall off my bike.......
It doesn't mean much in light of everything, but i wanna say i admire you for researching the source of information..
So youre talking about commiting criminal acts while talking about legalizing marijuana, furthing pushing my point. Idk what big ben or veteran health care has to do with this argument. Wasnt it your choice that you served in iraq? So dont push that shit on me. I support our veterans but marijuana has nothing to do with them. Idk about some of the people in the world but i dont want my kids growing up smoking weed everyday, i dont think people should be abusing substances at all, why not just be happy being you. I agree, you served, you should be able to not get harrassed about shit, especially the way ive seen some veterans treated.. but what youre saying doesnt justify weed being legal. I say you should be able to enjoy a marijuana cig, but i still dont think it should be legalized.
I think you need to compile your agrument in better paragraph form. Does DXM prevents you from hitting the Enter key?.. What keeps you from buying that?...... oh the watchful eye of the control efforts in place. Are you saying that it isnt working, you was still able to buy it, your parents must be rich. Im sure that being the case and all$$$ you can buy whatever drug you want.. maybe even a hooker.. Would you like to know how many times ive done dxm?. NONE=, really, If I had taken it, it was to combat a cold... not for some make believe psychedelic nazi trip.. Stuff burning a hole in your head @high doses. What could you be thinking?. And it has alot to do with veterans getting medicine that isnt OXycottin and morphine.. :toetap05: Criminal acts.. hey dude. I cultivate cannabis!! What do you think that is here?.. Intoxicants are everywhere in our environment.. .. If you dont want your kids smoking some cannabis, I cant wait to introduce them to huffing gasoline.. The petrol industry wins again.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flOvM4Z355A"]YouTube - The Doors - Light My Fire I think you better wear a condom..
can't wait for an agruement,,, seriously, the word agruement, its spelled oof, probably wrong, what significance is that>
Every dealer I've ever went through sold only weed, and usually didn't do it for a huge profit but just to get some extra spending money and weed for themselves. The douchebags that are likely to move on from dealing pot to dealing harder drugs or husting people or robbing people will do so because they are, simply put, not good people. it has nothing to do with weed being a gateway to dealing harder drugs and it has nothing to do with not being able to sell weed anymore. As for the marijuana abuse, I think responsible citizens have the right to choose when and how much they smoke pot. If someone ruins their life because all they do is sit around and smoke and have no other priorities, that is because they are dumbasses. They would find other ways to ruin their life if it weren't for weed. Intelligient people who choose to partake in smoking should be intelligient enough not to abuse it, and if they aren't its really not the government's job to try to stop them from ruining their lives. Its called personal responsibility and its a really great concept.
Some really stupid dumb ass arguments in this thread... Not you Meliaaiaia.. I just wanted to add to the point that is being made about MJ abuse. First of all.. no such thing. However, take a look at my shit hash thread and consider that and all the other shit lumps of hash or bags of weed I have imbibed into my lungs as a result of being unable to acquire anything decent to smoke. Add to that the number of times I have relapsed into tobacco abuse and the drinking and then think to yourself, what would be the solution to all this? Fucking MJ abuse my arse! Legalise and stop this from happening to me, and to others in this country who just want to smoke some nice pot and be left alone. Abso-fuckin-lutely!:2thumbsup:
Marijuana abuse is: Not being able to purchase it ,, Like BOOZE and TOBACCO.. one I havent used since I was 18yrs old, the other tobacco I just quit recently.. I really enjoyed the withdraw symptoms, hallucination, irritable, still going where I kept my tobacco, going there with forgetfulness, habitually thinking I need tobacco after a meal... Funny I dont have withdraw symptoms when I havent smoked cannabis for hours and hours. I dont wake up seeking my cannabis or need it with my coffee.. @ closing this arguement.. <Whats the fucking point FOOLs.. You realize your officials have outsmarted you.,. They effectively have us arguing among ourselves.. You think this whole Cannabis thing is a joke. Check your gas station, tobacco store. Do you really think they sell all them wrappers and blunts to smoke tobacco.. GROW A FUCKING BRAIN ,, before ever attempting to grow cannabis.. Someone is in someones pocket.. :devil: That someone is big business. And you just remember this. While there may not be Marijuana where you live. Do you think its fucking fair, some dick wad that really dont care about anything other than money, is building their ski resort out if cannabis . While you cant even afford a snow cone from McDonald. Its really cute isnt it.. Really cute when your spending $18.99 on a CD of some Rapper, watching this bugger on MTV cribs rub it in your face, how he sold crack cocaine to get there. .. Its really more pathetic than that, and its going to get worse Way WAY worse.. Ive already have old people busting my balls for weed.. Youre going to get older too. May as well pick up that glass dick booze bottle now, get it over with... Unless you have the ability to move wherever you want. Then there should be not one single reason why your state is any different that Califfukckingfornia.. Model state, model my ass.. They got cannabis, and they are still at each others throats, cant make them people happy nohow! And Guess what. Cannabis isnt going away anytime soon.. GROW IT!!
Withdrawal symptoms can be fun when you start to get that head rush, and you smoke some weed, you are really flying for days after. In a kind of edgy not good way, but in a goodf way because you know you are getting healthier. Sometimes I wake up in the night, and I want some.. but I don't bother becaues i can't be bothered with the effort involved. That and i just think that it would be a waste of what little I have left to smoke it and then fall asleep...