"Since everything supposedly came from the big bang"

This is good. Maybe there is intelligences somewhere on Earth after all. LOL

One thing I have always found very interesting in a funny way is the fact that Astrophysics will tell us that the farther we look out into space the farther back in time we are seeing. And then turn around and make statements that seem like what they just said about time and space did not exist. The fact is that we have no idea what is going on at the edge of the universe. Why? Because that light will not reach us for a very very long time. If the outer edges of the universe is starting to collapse back in on us, that evidence will not reach here until long after there is no long anything or anyone here to see it. Long before we know if the universe is collapsing back in on itself the Suns nova will have enveloped the Earth. The Andromeda Galaxy will have collided with the Milky Way Galaxy. In short we will no longer be here.
Have a nice day.

 

Of course, one could argue back that it's not a matter of the light reaching us (in effect, of seeing what's going on), but of using reason to decipher what must be going on based on known principles. The problem is that we don't have enough known principles to even begin to come to any conclusions about these questions.

 

Will Zorba, that kinda my point. <(^o^)>

 

Actually, we're on the same page here, too.

I'm still resistant to accept the fossil fuel theory; and having been claiming a lack of evidence about this global warming fiasco since I first heard about it in middle school =P

 

scientific evidence shows that phenomenon such as the big bang do not occur only once. this proves there are many other parallel universes in the fifth dimension

 

A man after my own heart.

 

Would you mind sharing this "scientific evidence". Personally I do not believe it exist. The "Big Bang Theory" is called a theory because it has not been proving. In fact there is very little evidence to to actually support the theory. Only background noise that seems to come from everywhere and a universe that seems to be expanding it all direction at once. But good empirical evidence simply does not exist.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

 

it was on discovery channel. most top scientists agree... look it up perhaps?

 

It's pretty sad that you don't even understand what the word 'theory' means in the context we're discussing.

 

BIG BANG TIMELINE MIND FUCK: GIVE ME GODHEAD OR GIVE ME HEAT DEATH. LG

 

Well what a fiesta.

The big bang.. I will continue to talk if ONE here can describe a singularity.
in form and concept

If not you are all talking out your asses. LGH is actually pretty clued in
heatdeath bodes not well for people.. It takes several hundred billion years to happen.
time we do'nt want to be 'immortal' for. as immortal souls who wants to spend that in a universe running down to nothing.
which begs the question/.. is hell heat death

what i think is that heaven is a bullet in the head and its over..
hell is ETERNAL LIFE

 

I know this is not a mathematical description, but in terms of the absolute everything else is an abstraction. If reality was a singularity once, is it not a singularity still? Don't all incremental measurements represent corridors of refraction?

 

Here's the way someone I know described the whole "she-bang". I had to read it more than a few times just to wrap my noggin around it. See if it answers any of your questions or elicits some mind-blowing epiphanies:

Is this dude totally cool or what? A total mind fuck but in a good way. And, the lastest I've heard is that the universe is actually cooling down. WTF! Stop this fractal, I wanna get off. LG

 

+ 1.

i've argued that tooth and nail in the past.

 

Not a guess but a theory - a theory universally accepted by modern day astronomers

This is kind of my belief, too.

Most astromers believe there must be dark matter that will enable the universe to expand forever. It just seems to my feeble mind that this is erroneous and that the universe will again collapse into itself, similar to the way individual black holes suck up all matter around them, increasing their gravitational pull to reach further and further out into space until they suck up other, less powerful, black holes, and.... well you get the picture.

Anti-matter perhaps, on the other side of the visible universe or even existing side-by-side with the visible universe - we can't see (or detect) them and they can't see us.

 

More incredible than some etherial figure (or non-figure, perhaps) floating around out there in space somewhere deciding he (she, it) wanted to make things and living mortals that would worship he/she/it? The living mortals would be made in his/her/its own image (hmmm, what would he/she/it need with reproductive organs?) and these mortals would call him/her/it God/Jehova/Allah (or other lesser known names).

I don't think that's part of the Big Bang theory - not as I understand it anyway. Maybe the first part of what is quoted above could describe the universe as it existed prior to the current Big Bang, but all of this contracted into an unimaginable dense object (the size of a tennis ball?) containing all of the material that is now part of the current universe. The temperature was unimaginably hot. INstead of destroying the universe, the universe was created by the release of all this compacted material.

Actually, we can very readily see far back into other times with our modern telemetry equipment. The light that is picked up by them has come from billions of years ago. what they detect actually occured back the.n

 

"tree-multiverse view where the seed of our universe came from another universe's black hole."

Elegant.

"further cosmologists have recently conjectured that the total energy in the universe is actually increasing! "

Creation is extension.

"as the universe expands, so too does the total amount of dark energy in the universe which fuels further expansion leading to a hypothesized geometric increase in the total energy in our universe."

Multiplication is quick addition.

The past and the future are both artifacts of the present. The more far forward reaching we become, the more distant is the past. So the whole die is cast and recast in each moment. Each new roll refreshing the magnitude of probability.

perhaps.

 

The fact that we cannot detect anything beyond 13.7 billion light years, is not definite proof that the universe is that age. We are stuck (for now), on a tiny piece of rock in a seemingly endless universe. We have neither the knowledge or the skills to say with 100% certainty that the universe is x.xx years old. While I subscribe to the big bang theory, I am also aware that it is not a good idea to deny other possibilities.

 

????

 

I'm still not totally 100% convinced but I've never been one to believe anything I've been told. As far as astronomers/physicists/a gaggle of various kinds of scientists who piss about with theory's and numbers are concerned; I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.