Look,in no way do i propogate inscest or molestation,but i find a parradox within the nudist comunity.They speak openly about the beuaty of the naked body,that nudism in the family home must be practiced,and that,just like any other human,sexuality amongst nudists is normal and natural. Often yu hear how from a young age,or at some time,the nudists had sexuality experiences with others,or were caught in some act by someone,even shared masturbations with others,thats acceptable! YET,when family is vaigly associated,its Bad!When a child is introduced into nudism,and begin exploring its facets WITHIN THE FAMILY HOME,then its taboo .I remember when i introduced my young son aged 5 to nudism (after my late wife had died,post having divorced me while he was stil in utero) ,having been raised by her as a textillian for the first five years of his life,he responded with Extreme curiosity.FOR example,when I shaved ,while naked,my penis would bounce around,and he found it very amusing,and often wold grab at it,or playfully tap it .On Other occasions,especially in summer when i would sleep on top of my sheets,and would wake with a morning wood,my son also sleeping naked would ,compare both our penises,as well as both our errections,asking all types of qeustions..eg."why are they so hard.?Why is yours bigger..?Why is yours thicker...WHY have u got hair,and not me.!etc.,and i wold patiently answer him. WE later spent almost al our time at home and outside,or at the beach in the nude,and he loved being naked. Sometimes he would lay,deep in thought exploring his penis ,or fondle his penis while watching tv,and OCCASIONALLY orgasmed in the process ,especially with female wrestling,while i sat in the lounge with him,obviousely also in the nude. SOMETIMES,more LESS than often,he would explore my penis almost curiousely examining it,because i am circumsized,and he was not,and he envied it and asked miriads of related questions.HOWEVER,we never purpously neither ever did,desire to masturbate together,NOR EACH OTHER,or bcus of each other.though we knew that each other did masturbate even when he turned a teen,but NEVER WITH each other,or because of each other,I masturbated because i was'nt married,and had no outlet for sex,except masturbation.My son had his own reasons. My point is this,he had no sexual motivation,nor intentions,and neither did I.HE acted naturally out of curiosity,even when he turned 13,and still loved being naked,and made it clear that he prefered nudism above clothes.Even when his friends came over to visit almost every day,even up to his death at age 14,he never wore clothes,and neither did I,and remained in the nude,. Once He had walked in on me masturbating ,and with me, having just ejaculated,he just,in the nude, came and sat on the bed next to me,whatched it all,and asked me to show him how i did it,and WHY i ejaculated,and all types of questions about my masturbation techniqeus,and tried every technique i did,on himself...... Now here is the paradox,what is the difference when other adults teach them sex theory at school,or our kids indulge with friends in a jerk off circle,...or being open and honest with their parents,where the nudist child can express his sexuality without prejudise,explore,question and respect his sexuality,and experience it,and exercise and practice it as something holy and precious in private or openly in the home without obligation or presure,and BECOME COMFORTABLE WITH IT !THIS IS THE PARADOX,they are encouraged to get comfortable with their bodies and sexuality,and yet,when they do get comfortable,especially at home,private or openly without fear of/or redicule,its seen as wrong! Whats wrong?ITS a different story if a child is groomed for abuse,and forced by siblings or kin into molestation,but when it happens naturally and spontaniousely,and the child,parents and household is comfortable with each other,then it becomes,ACCORDING TO THE ESTABLISHMENT AND SOCIETY,INSCEST AND SICK AND WIERD AND PEDOPHILiC.THIS IS THE CRUX of the paradox! They are encouraged to get comfortable with their sexualityt at home and their nudity,But WHEN THEY DO,THEN ITS BAD,PEDOPHELIC,INSCEST AND ABUSE OR MOLESTATION?Where then is it precious and correct...at school where theory is taught only by strangers?.....with pier presure where the child is forced ripe and must perform to be accepted in some fellowship where respect is obliutterated and people bcum only sex trophies?......or in a condusive,nudist family home environment,where they learn,explore,understand ,enjoy,live out and respect their sexuality within the home,privately and openly,where they dictate their pace,and u the parent guide and support them.YOU DECIDE!
dude how have you not been banned? I'm pretty sure you've posted this exact same thread at least 3 times before. a son is not supposed to explore his sexuality with his father..it doesn't matter if youre naked around each other all the time or not, sexuality is something to be explored alone in private at first, and later with a partner..but definitely not with a parent. stop posting this shit man nobody gives a shit that your son likes to watch your penis bounce around
Its not what u choose to read in it.NNTICE THE POINT THAT I AM TRYING TO POINT OUT WHICH U Just proved!HE did not explore his sexuality IN ME,i made it very clear,notice words like OCCASIONALLY...LESS THAN MORE...CURIOUS....COMPARE....QUESTIONS....NEVER MASTURBATED EACH OTHER,NOR BECAUSE OF EACH OTHER..,.
in light of the thread, i understand the guy ain't into incest - hence why i was alright making a wise crack but answering seriously, it's not cool to flap your dick around your kid all the time. not in my eyes anyways. he may grow up to accept it, but give him a chance to do exactly that.
The first time he posted this, I tried to read it with an open mind..but i'm starting to get the idea that he posts the same thing over and over again just to get a rise out of people...appearantly getting a rise out of his son isnt enough for him....badabing! ...er..dumb joke? anyways i think the dudes just trollin'
What is important to know,is what type of persönality my son had.He Was very outspoken and spontanious,it made no difference whether u were barefoot,naked,or clothed,he wanted to kow everything,explore anything,then rationalise all things.One day,going to the toilet in the mall,i stood at one urinal,a moslem stood next to me,and then my son,aged 7.When he finished wheeing,he looked over at the moslem mans penis,then his,and exclaimed,"Daddy,he has no skin like you,and I have a skin,I Want my penis like both yours,its pretier!" WHEN HE WAs thirteen,i had remarried,and my son was on a mattress in frönt of the tv ,naked ,whatching divas, tv, i was clothed,and my wife,and he develloped a huge erection,i askf if he wanted to put ön a short.His response was..."NO,i am a teenager,and erections are normal and necerarry,my penis is'nt unique!"
I aqologise for creating the wrong impression whth my posting.I do not get of on my son,and would hope no one else does.My son was unique,and asstounded me the way he rationalized nudism,hìs logic on it,his acceptance,addaption and embracing of nudism,as well as exploring it,and exploring,experiencing and practicing his sexuality as a holistic part of nudism.His entire view of nudity,impacted my view of it drastically.For 9 years,us to were the only true nudist family i had and knew,and is unfortunately the only reference framework i have.HE made me appreciate nudism,and realy embrace it the way he did,and perhaps this is my way of keeping his legacy and reality alive.Its all real,and happned,yet there were no sexual motive or grattification and purpose.When he died,his last words to me were..."Daddy,stay naked..I'M Sure heaven is nude and barefoot like us,I'm whatcing...remember.We are nudists".THATS ALL I HAVE LEET OF HIM.Appologies if i offendid yus...luv ya'oul....KAALVOET
meliai, where is that gigantic, surreal and obviously ancient tree? I am astounded by its beautiful Taoist contortions. If you weren't so far away I'd be on your doorstep with a camera ready to roll, to photograph this engimatic old giant, then print, frame and put it up in my studio. Unless, of course, you're artificially doctored the tree (=instant loss of interest...). Re this thread, the OP has a personally unique way of expressing him thoughts: perhaps not exactly coherently or legibly (ie. lack of paragraphs...). Whether intention or not, there is some undertone of incestuous reflection that may be unconsciously expressed (difficult to prove). You may not agree or approve of what he is saying, but you must fight for his right to say it. Just let him have his say.
The tree is the so-called "Angel Oak" in Charleston, South Carolina. People steal (or is it "adopt"?) images they find on the Internet all the time--that one's available any number of places.
I think that some of the responses here have been rather hard on Kaalvoet whose expression here seems honest and sincere. What he writes concurs with writings regarding child psychology and behavior. If we honestly looked back to the period when we were children and if we were capable of recalling ourselves back at that age, we would probably not find the behavior of Kaalvoet's son at all different from our own curiosities and urges for intimacy with our parents. We know that in primitive societies too that children can nurse as old as five or seven. It is unlikely that the intimacy a child desires from the mother is alternatively withheld completely from the father. But in modern society (at least the American one I know) clothing serves as a barrier to such intimacy and a facilitator of shame. This shame is taught early on. I can't imagine this information is of any surprise or novelty to readers so why have some of us castigated Kaalvoet? He merely refused to instill shame in his son while most of us as children knew instinctively from adult behavior that adults were ashamed of all sexual matters. We knew not to speak of sexual matters, such as we understood them, within earshot of adults lest we be scolded and reprimanded. As children we competed in our ignorance of sexuality. Those children who thought they knew something about sex used it to make themselves appear better than everyone else. Our pathetic society thought it was daring to even begin to mention the word 'sex' in the public media beginning in the 1960s and 1970s. In America sex education remains a controversial idea. So kudos to Kaalvoet for following a different light.