I find under 30 mgs they have very little in common except they both have a slow onset. I'll describe the differences at ~ 25 mgs since that's about the average dose I've done with both. I've never taken 2ce over 30 mgs. 2ce is a much more heavy psychedelic at this dose, for me its like LSD minus the mindfuck and minus some of the awesomeness. There is much more significant time distortion on 2ce than 2cb and its much more visual. I personally find 2cb way more euphoric but some here swear by 2ce's euphoria. I rarely venture anywhere on 2ce like I do on 2cb and its not sensual at all for me. I find the gi effects and body tension to be pretty prounced especially since 2cb is pratically without a single negative physical effect at this dose. 2ce more visual Heavier trip more time distortion more body load 2cb more euphoric more fun easier trip no bad physical effects Music sounds amazing on both
I have experienced more euphoria with 2ce, personally. I have only taken 2cb once though, at 45mg. 2ce takes your further out of this world though, which allows less room for dysphoria and negativity. It is still a very chaotic trip though, whereas 2cb is more colorful and "circus-like", ime. Basically, it all depends on dosage though.
It's hard to tease out differences between them not accountable for by set and setting, but if I would try, I would say that generally, -E is more "out of control", "difficult", and "sit down". It will take you "away" from reality and into a world of your mind and energy. -B is more relaxed, easy, and functional, you might want to "do" things more than on E -B tends to have more pastels and neons in the visuals, more cartoony and playful, non-threatening and other-wordly, but beautiful, like a fairy-tale land. E tends to be more arcane, entheogenic, pure-plasma-of-the-primordial-Proton kind of stuff. -B is more love-oriented, sensuality-oriented, closeness-oriented, physical pleasure-oriented, while E is more of an incomprehensible journey through your cells and the voltages therein. -E will take you "out of this world" more, while B will plunge you more "into the world". Synesthesia is present in both, but different. Both are excellent, but I think B's is more comprehensive and pleasurable. I don't think I've ever had a more pleasant body sensation than on 2c-b. -E lasts 50-100% longer than B. -E has a greater body load with it than B, but body load seems to be a very personal thing influenced by your body's last 72 hours and such. For me the greatest complaint on E is the nausea and gut cramps, and on B it's the temperature fluctuations. -E's psychedelic nature is more orgiastic and unordered, a kind of electric storm in the mind, I kind of feel that if I were a robot built to receive 2c-e, it would have the same trip for me. B's tends to be ornately elegant, impossibly finely structured, and somehow more "humanistic", I feel it is a distilled jubilance for the human state, a perfect aphrodesiac for the senses and mind . . . 2c-e's visuals: 2c-b's visuals: music on both is out of this world!
^^^Perfect post. I agree with pretty much everything you said, aside from the part about B being more euphoric, though I'd have to try B at different doses to confirm or deny that E is more euphoric for me. The pictures are very good representations, imo. Can't rep you yet though. Dammit. Someone rep that guy.
Yes, mind trip in an emotional sense though not really like a spirtual/other worldly sense. Its much more like 2cb than 2ce is. I find it highly analytical and it can be more euphoric than 2cb but its very hit and miss, I find both 2cb and 2ce more consistent in their effects. But 2ci is the only 2c I've experienced that has even come close to approaching the euphoria of ecstasy.
I'm personally not a fan of 2ci. It's good to combine with other things, but it never quite got me to where I wanted to go, on it's own.
Yah I've experienced some inconsistency with it but it really depends for me. If I am looking for a deep heavy visual trip I would go for 2ce. If I am going to a concert and I want to dance or be social Id go with 2ci. I've never mixed the two, have only heard good things though.
its like 37.54 % on the trip scale. Pretty close in my experience, 2cb is a little bit more relaxed with less body tension but same kind of trips. They're both < 30 mgs like half trips/half rolls or whatever, 2ci being more of a trip IMO, 2cb more visual (I know makes no sense LOL. Basically 2ci distorts the mind more, 2cb distorts vision more) 2ci lasts about 2 hrs longer. I probably wouldn't get them confused but I think they are closer to one another than say LSD and shrooms.
I don't know man. 45mg of 2cb was one of the most visual experiences I've ever had, behind high dose 2ce. Plenty of mindfuck, also. For me, 2ci was like 2ce lite. 2ce>2cb>2ci(imo)
ive been thinking of trying some 2c series, which do you guys think would be the best to start with? ive done 5-meo-dalt many times, the ice incense blend on my site has 70mg per gram on it? which is my site btw! any suggestions would be nice, might send some samples to interested people who cant afford 15.00 lol
2ce had me confused. I my train of thought was completely gone. The whole trip seemed kind of "dark." I had no anxiety on 2ce. It's been a while since I've had 2ci but it did make me quite anxious. I had a much better train of thought on I tho. I really want to try B, I hear its more of a roll with a little bit of a psychedelic twist to it. No clue as to get it in my city tho. Nobody has even heard of it. I do know of a place in China that I could import it from but the price is bad unless you get 10 grams. Plus it's specifically illegal here so I don't think it's a good idea.
mr writer got the visuals on point. whenever i explain the two to people who have no idea i out it in simple terms, 2c-e is electric acid, and 2c-b is bubbly mellow acid. that nowhere near explains them in detail but to people simply wondering it works. as far as my own experience i find 2c-e to be much more euphoric than b. on e i get these flushes of pure energy that course through my entire body, its one of the most amazing feelings ive ever had from a psychedelic of that nature. 2c-b on the other hand was the first rc i ever took and took quite a bit being told it was synthetic mescaline. and i will tell you that at doses upwards of 100mg and more it def tends to have a mescaline like quality to it. but ive never really had true euphoria on 2c-b, and the visuals are extremely interesting. it took me 3 years to finally realize that b visuals are bubbly lol. its def one of the more mellow rc's of that nature as far as i, e, b, t series etc, go. very enjoyable but needs to be upped to the 30mg range imo to even touch a 20mg dose of 2c-e visually. it really all depends on what your looking for your experience which why all the chemicals are so fascinating because each one opens the door to a different perspective. ive been sittin on b, i, e, and t2, and 7 for quite some time now and i prob wont even touch em for a long time just cause ive gotten all i can from them atm. of the twp, 2c-e and 2c-b, id have to say e is my favorite edit: hahahah i just realized there was a whole nother page, srry this doesnt flow with the thread correctly
2c-b is a very strange chemical. last time i took it with my gf at the time she ate 25mg and i ate 30mg and her trip was only about 6 hours which is standard however mine lasted for 12, and was visual for that entire 12 hours
I am person who doesn't get full blown visuals on any of thing... just pattering and such. and 2C-E sucks for me, 2C-I is way better, and 2C-C+2C-I was VERY visual for me and just positive... like, euphoria similar to LSD and body high similar to amph/mdma . Where 2C-E is just plain darkness and anxiety + discomfort. 2C-I+2C-C > 2C-I > 2C-E