4-aco-dmt & 2c-c

i'd like to hear about your DPT trip too. what was your dose?

 

I will tell you right now that you are going to have your ass kicked in ways you never imagined possible. I look forward to that trip report. remember what you said in this post about 4acodmt lol. foot in mouth is incoming

4aces is weird, some people get VERY far out on like 15mg, other people like me don't get into the good stuff til like 35mg+. I think it's obvious you are part of the latter group. In which case, 25mg is indeed a very tame dose. i worked an 8 hour retail shit on this dose, as the boss in the store to boot. you need to take 45mg and see what's up. and trust me, it's not a waste of material, and you're only "chasing the trip" because you keep under dosing as a general rule if a dose of a molecule does not impress you, try doubling it (allowing for safety). 4acodmt is universally one of the most loved psychedelic out there . . . it is easily one of the deepest, and most beautiful, and reguarly makes grizzled psychonauts break down into tears like babies as the fundamental constituents of reality fall apart and their deepest darkest secrets come flooding out into the universe. eat 40-50mg and then decide what you think about this one

I don't think 50mg orally would accomplish much to be honest . . . it's pretty light, almost like straight amphetamine from my one 50mg experience.

 

Really? Ampy? It was like a benzo to me. My body was completely relaxed almost like a benzo/opiate combo. My whole body felt like jello. I wasn't sleepy by any means but I certainly wasn't amped up. It was very dreamy and smooth. I liked it a lot. Not psychedelic at all. I look forward to redosing the 2C-C. I was just breaking through thresh hold with 20mg. From what I've read it's pretty chill and never gets exactly trippy.

I have ordered more 4-aco-dmt from a different vendor and gonna give it another try. I was really excited about it from reading reports and was so disappointed when I didn't experience anything like what I read. I chalked it up to me losing the magic from doing too many shrooms in my past but reflecting back on that now it really doesn't make any sense. I really do think the batch I had was just crappy b/c my friend whom rarely ever trips barely felt anything off 26mg. Oh well, shit happens.

 

FUCK YES!

i had a ++++ on this combo summer before last.

something like 25mg 4-aco-dmt, and something like 35-50mg [all nasal, in a few doses, spread out over a while] of 2c-c nasal was consumed

i was out in the woods...it was marvelous

 

How was snorting the 2C-C? Was it as painful as everyone says other 2C's are? From reading the horror stories I am afraid to snort any 2C's. My nose has taken a beating though. I have a hole in my right sinus cavity from cocaine and who knows what else from all the X, pills, and the few times I did meth. People saying that it feels like it's eating away at the back of their eyes scares the shit out of me though. If it's just a good burn I don't think It will bother me that much. Nothing can be worse than snorting benedryl, don't ask. LOL

 

2c-c is the most painful 2c-x compound i've ever snorted [including 2c-b,2c-e,2c-i,2c-t-2]...but the onset is VERY intense

and yes, 2c-c is MUCH worse than snorting diphenhydramine...i know from experience :2thumbsup:

 

Oh lord, no snorting 2C's for me then.

 

Snorting a small amount of 2c doesn't hurt that badly in my opinion, it's over soon enough, even if it does leave a pain for a short while it's not too bad. I wouldn't do it purely because the onset is as has been said very powerful, but I'd definitely consider snorting a little bump of say 5mg if it was required.

 

it really isn't much worse of a burn than M1 or meph. The burn lasts a little longer than those, but if you chase it with some nasal saline spray, it goes away soon enough.

the appeal IMO of this roa is no nausea, a rapid & intense onset with the peak hitting faster too, & you don't need to use as much since nasal (like rectal) admin requires about half that of oral. So snorting 15mg is about as potent as eating 30mg. This is true of trypts IME as well, & they tend not to burn at all.

 

i've read that it's not always the case with tryptamines. but that's just reading - not personal experience.

i've also read that an oral 2cx trip is more of a full, well rounded trip than a snorted one.

 

Im not huge on snorting 2cx, have done it with a few different chems and its more about the EXTREME factor than a proper trip. I feel like trying to rid of a nasty ass drip then being rushed to peak doesn't allow me to get mentally into it. I can see how some may enjoy it but I agree porkstock it does feel like getting slighted to me compared to oral.

If you can get over the 'weirdness' factor rectal really may be the best roa for 2cx's: increased potency, lessens nausea, retains an oral type trips well rounded aspects.

I definitely suggest making a liquid solution for rectal and squirting it up there lol as opposed to sticking caps up your ass. Lay down on your side/stomach and stay put for a few minutes, it makes you feel like you have to poo or weird kinda but no burn in my experience. (2cb, 2ce, 2cp, methylone, mdma, 4-aco dmt)

I still even get weird with rectal sometimes though, injection is much more comfortable to me which may not be entirely a good thing, just saying for sake of example, but oral is always a good ROA.

 

I dunno, it is just my own personal experience, but with both PEAs & trypts I get twice the bang per mg & have fully rounded trips intranasally. The peak always hits within the 1st hour though, regardless of substance.

 

^ I've done 2ce, 2cb and 2ct2 nasally what Psychs take more than 10 mins to come up on?

 

none IME thus far. Every psych I've snorted has always hit within 10 min.

 

2ct2 is the only one I would reccommend snorting, it was like 4x more potent than oral compared to 2x of 2cb, 2ce like you mentioned earlier cosmoknot.

You suspect that's due to 2ct2's maoi properties?

 

I've noticed just how much more powerful t2 is that way as well. I think the maoi theory probably holds water since I can't think of anything else to account for it.

 

Yah 2ct2 is pretty crazy in really low doses snorted...

I also snorted a couple mgs of 5-Meo mipt once but I forgot to count that one because that tryptamine is like part speed, part psychedelic.

 

"part speed" makes me shy away from 5meomipt. before that statement, i was kinda interested in that one.

 

I think 2c-b is better orally. Beginning of trip is more speedy and hot when snorted... and it lasts shorter.

But I tried snorting it only once.. .will try it again soon.. might mix K and 2c-b...:sunny:..

 

That is an INSANE combo (http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=414047&f=126)

ketamine excels at taking you out of your body, bee excels at putting you into your body, the two mixed end up being something new, something magic