Rekindling Love

I wasn't sure if this should go in the Christian Forum or the Relationships Forum.

When I read Revelations 2:1-7,

I think of a couple,
Who at first loved each other very much,
And stayed together through some very difficult times.
They began notice that they may no longer love each other as much as they did.
They certainly believe that they belong together, and have no desire to seek other relationships,
But it has occurred to them that since they now talk and do less together, they may eventually break up.

Any advice?

 

Religious people lie to god way more than agnostics...

That's my advice. Maybe you shouldn't make promises you can't keep like little children and then quote the bible...

little children the rest of us have to take care of while you live in disney land.

Maybe if you only elude to it it will make you sound less stupid....

Fucking retard.

 

I sometimes use examples of myself,
But this is not one of them.

How did you make your choice?

How do you know that your making a promise you can keep?

Love often takes time to grow.
At some point, though, it may be considered as dead.

 

I think that if their love for each other has seemed to have died,
You need to somehow believe in love for each other,
Before you even try to awaken it.

I think that it is good to be clear about what you are promising (and expecting) in a relationship.

For example, in Catholicism,
Through baptism, we enter into a special relationship with God.
However, between and within Christian groups, there are different ideas about baptism.

 

If the measure you give is the measure you receive, then the only thing that can be absent is what you have not given.

Oaths and contracts are both limits on giving.

 

Love is a valuable goal, even though it is not always reciprocated by others.

I think it's important that we clarify promises and expectations often assumed to be implicit,
Because it improves communication and resolving offenses.
It allows us to identify and forgive broken promises,
Which can be healing for both people involved.

Sometimes the other may be apathetic toward correcting the offenses,
Or had no intention of promising anything from the beginning.
Even though this can lead to the end of the relationship,
Your continued forgiveness can still bring you peace.

 

What love is a goal?

I think it important to realize that we can't always fulfill promises and better not to make them in the first place. Why would we make a promise anyway?
If a person has expectations then they become the other persons jailer, as the person with expectations, expects compliance.

I don't regard forgiveness as forgiving offenses. I regard forgiveness as a way of recognizing the truth, that every act is love or the desire for it. A way of seeing that there is nothing to forgive.

It is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out. It is always the offended that takes offense. The offender is not offended by their own act, they do their good depending on their model of what good looks like. The judgment we make of another is the judgment that we live with, but the other may have a different judgment all together.

 

Apparently you desired to post, and then posted,
Perhaps your love is posting (which was your goal).
I see that you have posted thousands of posts.

Promises are ideals, like goals.
And ideals unite people.

 

Is it apparent or are you just speculating?
Posting is not my goal. I post, sometimes I do other things.
How can love be a goal?

People are united through biology. Ideals can be used to separate people.
Ideas, are shared. To make a promise is to put a limit on giving,
that is all.

 

I was trying to be tactful.

Of course posting was your goal.
You tried to post because you believed that it was a good idea,
And so you made the necessary sacrifices, and went from not posting to posting.

Why don't you believe this?

Goodness is an inherent ideal for everyone.
Ideas are shared if they are considered to be good by the sharers.
Likewise, mutual promises are also chosen if they are considered to be good.

A limit on giving what?

 

I can appreciate the perceived need for politic, but I am not insecure so it appears, disingenuous.

All life seeks to be itself, to manifest itself, to extend itself. The range of this intent is between the instinct for self preservation at one end to gratitude at the other. If posting were my goal, that goal was fulfilled the very first time I posted. It is not a sacrifice to give because the giving is demonstration of what we possess. In other words we only have what we can give away.

The belief does not serve me, I am satisfied by truth.

Ideas are shared regardless. That is why we can find people unpleasant, but it is not what goes into a man but what comes out, that dictates the tone of his experience. There are no idle thoughts.

That which you have to give. Specialness requires that we care more or less as opposed to being carefree or free with our care. Specialness obscures the perception of reality as a whole. In terms of what is, what is, is absolute, and everything else is an abstraction.

All that we have is the only thing we have.

 

Tact is used with those who are secure (not insecure) in how they see truth,
Because suffering is often associated with change.
Our goal is to avoid suffering,
However we see it.

Nothing is suffering?

Giving a demonstration requires sacrifices.

I don't share your ideas.

Perceptions of reality, of "what is," can be flawed.

 

lazar quest is a lot of fun.

 

We cannot in fact, avoid suffering in others. You do not move any persons diaphragm but your own. I'm sure you are aware of the discontent that swirls around people who, "mean well". Tact is only meaningful if you are trying to manipulate response and that is a measure of deceit as well as conceit.

No ones suffering is special.

No, there is no such creature as "sacrificial giving". It describes a creature with two heads, each going in a different direction. Sacrifice is letting go of something that you prefer to keep. Giving is giving because you want someone to have it.

"Sacrificial giving" is a mythical creature in the same vain as, "righteous indignation". There is no indignity in righteousness and dignity cannot be had unless we share it.

Actually yes, you are aware of them. Whether you cultivate the same idea in your own life is another matter, but nothing is hidden that will not come to light, or cannot be discovered.

What I said was, specialness obscures perception of reality as a whole.

 

As for advice, love the one you're with, always.

 

So,
Nothing is suffering?

 

I don't understand the question and I think it is because you are not posing your query as a question in substance. I see the question mark but there is no subject in your statement.

I have an idea, I will ask the same question in the same manner as you and ask you to respond to it.

Psychotheosophy,
nothing is suffering?

 

Some may see the question as,
"Everything is happiness?"

Others may see it differently,
How do you see it?

 

You have posited a statement with a question mark after it. You are not asking a question.

See above.