Egypt: Protests Turn Violent as Pro-Mubarak Forces Attack

Okay mister military science

 

A reporter who's currently in Egypt just quit because she said that the network (I'm not sure which one) has been telling her and other reporters what to say and what not to say. She wanted to report the truth about what's been going on over there and they wouldn't let her so she just announced that she quit.

This was on CNN.

 

i heard they blocked facebook and twitter in egypt.
but i'm friends with an egyptian on there, and she's been online today

 

It wasn't just facebook and twitter, Egypt was near taken off the internet.

 

Today might have been fine. Did you speak to her last week?

 

This is inspiring.

 

I'm sure if there is trouble we'll hear that they were there all of the time.
Sarcasm aside, do you think the violence is only going one way?
I hear the "protesters" are not causing any trouble but the "Mubarak supporters" are.
It can't be that black and white, can it?

 

I've seen live film of protesters fucking shit the fuck up, that includes people. It's not black and white but I still support the protesters even if some of them are acting immorally.

From what I understand, the violence for the most part was provoked by the pro mubarak people, possibly government co-operators, but the protesters still responded according to the "eye for an eye" law.

 

To be honest from what I've read, heard and seen the anti-Mubarak protesters have only incited violence after receiving it first from the pro-government goons.

I don't think the anti-protestors have otherwise been violent or destructive.

 

We have to come to a consensus on what terms were using to refur to whom.

 

I've heard almost every news channel use the terms;

Anti-Mubarack/anti-government/pro-democracy

Pro-government/pro-Mubarack/government goons (seriously)

 

I guess, technically, both sides are "protestors".
Both sides have there trouble causers.
It's just bizarre that one sid doesn't get called "protestor" when they are just expressing their opinion through protest too.
I dunno, I guess it just makes it easier.
US and Them.
I've heard the older generations, on both sides, just want the protests to end and be able to go back to work.
Isn't it about time they did?

 

Not really, in my opinion. The anti-Mubarack protesters have a goal, and a very respectable one. Their intent is to benefit the entire country and it's clear that they're not going to stop until they've accomplished their goal. If they gave up now all the headway they've made in the past few weeks will be completely lost.

 

That's the way it is being spun, certainly.
The so-called "pro-government goons" are just protesters too on the whole.
We're not really hearing the POV.
There are more "anti-Mubarak protesters" so perhaps they are causing the most trouble...I dunno.
I do know it takes two to tango.

On the whole, I think that is true...or it was a few days ago.
Things have turned up a notch and the lines are being blurred between who is and isn't causing trouble, imho.

 

I see the validity to what you're saying, but part of the reason it's been so easy for the pro-mubarak supporters to be painted as such is because there seems to be reasonable cause for suspition that they are acting 'under orders' so to speak. Posing as a protester while working in an offical copasity is a very underhanded tactic in my book. So is rabble-rousing what was a peaceful demonstration into an urban war zone. Even if both parties are to blame for the scale of their responces to eachother.

it's clear through their actions what princible they are fightring for, at least that's how I see it.

 

Mubarack is out (or will be). Do you think he'll suddenly decide he's going to stand again if everybody goes home?

 

I'm quite sure there has been certain elements that have been "under orders"..who's orders I'm not sure.
We'll never know if the same is true for the other side too.
I don't believe that all pro-mubarak supporters are all violent scum.
It's all a bit of a mess right now.
I'm not sure what the hell is going on.

 

I think he's on a megalomanical death trip with the last shreads of his power. He wants to go down with the ship. Which doesn't bode well for the ship.

 

Yea but the reason we haven't heard their point of view is because they won't speak to the media. Anderson Cooper was punched in the head 10 times, had a rock thrown through his car window which shattered on him and was pushed out of the area, had cameras smashed and stolen, one reporter who tried to get their point of view was stabbed, another was threatened to be beheaded, many have had their cameras smashed, even Egyptian reporters, many, many reporters have been attacked, beaten, dragged away, most have had their camera equipment stolen and/or smashed.

They cannot get the point of view of the Pro-government protestors because they won't allow any media witness what's going on.