This is going to be a long post, I apologise, but it's somewhat nessicary. I first tried 18 in the form of the spice blend "K2". I thought it was great, because it felt like weed, didn't show up on drug tests, and it went amazingly with Xanax (which I have pretty much unlimited acecss to). A friend of mine bought a gram of pure 18, and let me have about 100mgs of that. I had an amazing weekend, you could smoke it ANYWHERE! So far, it seemed like a mirical drug to me, however my friend reporte that he felt noticably dumber after binging on it, and I had a girlfriend at the time, so I didn't go for it. As girlfriends tend to do, this one dumped me eventually, actually exactly a month and a half in. I know highschool relationships are kind of a joke, but as a person, one of my most valued traits in myself and others is loyalty. She was my first real girlfriend, she told me she loved me, all of that genaric bullshit which I admit I was wrong to take seriously. However, she did mean the world to me, I couldn't help getting attatched. I actually did love her. But back to the point. She left, and I took it EXTREMELY badly, it's embarassing looking back on it, but like I said, she was my world. I actually had felt it coming, so I was saving my money. I had 60$, exactly enough for one gram of jwh-018. The day after she ended it (Monday), I ordered a gram, and it was at my house by Thursday. I nievely thought that this would somehow help me, and ironically it did in a way. But the next month and a half was a blur. I was high constantly, you could cape it in school which I did every day. I eventuallywas smoking puddles of the stuff, like probably up to 40mgs, even though the normal dose is between 5-10mgs. I hated everything, myself most of all. Then women in general second. I'd always had somewhat of an admiration for women, not having any sisters, and being rather unattractive and unconfident, I never really talked to girls even. I almost worshiped them in a way, my ultimate dream was to have a girl love me. But after that breakup, and while I was constantly pumping 18 into my brain, I became very twisted. The combination of the emotional traumaand the drug devistated me, and warped me in a way that I still feel to some point. Nothing was real except my hatred towards women and myself, and the drug. When I was sober, there was only pain. I think I would have killed myself or something if I didn't have some sort of escape, which I know is NOT healthy coping at ALL. But 18 gave me some sort of relief that I needed. However, every other aspect of my life suffered. I became even more out of shape, I lost any desire to be social, and any social skills for that matter, eventually my best friends even stopped calling me, and to this day I still have to hit them up if I want to hang. My grades took a nose dive, I ran out just in time to avarage D's in all my classes for the semester. My family had no idea what was wrong with me. Basically my life fell apart, and it took a strong dose of LSD to bring me out of my severe deppression (it still lingeres, but I can tolerate it I guess). When I took the acid, I realized how fucked up the past month and a half had made me. I realized that I needed to find some way to love myself before any girl would want anything to do with me. I realized that I needed to embrace my inner creativity, my love of art and music and creating art and music, and just enjoy the beauty in the world. Only recently is that enlightenment starting to fade as again I am realizing that I have nobody. I'm virtually alone in this world. I just wish I had one person that I could connect with, and share that special bond, but I have no one like that, and really no one to potentially become that close with. Now I'm just whining, but the point is, jwh-018 is definatly not a good substance. I realize that I have issues and shit, but what that chemical did to me and my life is aweful. Please leave me your own stories and experiances with jwh-018, and your thoughts on it. As always, much love to all of you, thanks for your time.
Christ i hate k2- thankfully it will be illegal soon! About a year ago my friend came to me with some, and told me he loved it. I was skeptical but bummed a bowl off of him and loaded it into my pipe. Gah! Euphoria, paranoia, and a hatred of being around anyone. I feel tiered and like someone was ALWAYS watching me. Yeah, its bad.. Dont try it stick with good ol' mary jane. Yes, it did get me very high, but there is a reason its legal.
Binging on the pure chemical was ammazing, especially with Xanax, but it destroyed my life. I mean, it was my own fault, I had been warned, but this chemical is nothing to fuck with. It's already banned where I live, I hope the site I got it from gets shut down too.
It's no substitute for weed, but I've never had any issues with it- apart from the first time I tried it... I smoked WAYYYY too much and had massive paranoia. I find it to be much more habit-forming than marijuana, but other than that, used in moderation, I find it to be pretty harmless. Although- I wouldn't recommend it to anyone since the long term effects are still unknown.
Gives a paranoid high definitely at the start, Ive noticed tolerance builds to it very quickly but seems to drop just as fast. Maybe the jwh wasn't making you "More stupid" but instead the Xanax? Only side effects Ive noticed on it is the harm it does to your lungs and maybe a head ache. Not to mention the high only last 30minutes-1 hour depending on tolerance. It's going illegal most places any-who.
Just to be clear, the Xanax was only on occasion, see my other thread for my thoughts on that. I had a gram of the pure chemical, not any spice blends. Those have like, 3-5mgs a bowl TOPS. I was vapourizing the pure chemical. And due to the ammount I had and the fact that you can do it literaly anywhere (there is no smell) I was on LITERALY all the time, and I dosed probably up to 50mgs. I know for a fact that binging on this stuff is where the bad shit happens, so yeah, I guess once in awhile is alright, but when you have a gram of the stuff, and you're as deppressed as I was, there was never any reason to be sober. It's not addictive as far as I'm concerned, but if you've got a lot of it, you probably will end up cumpulsivly re-dosing. I shouldn't say that actually, I'm sure if I didn't have any issues that I could restrain myself, but I do so I couldn't/: And yeah, I don't think it should be illegal I guess, no drug should be. I just think that it is definatly not the miricle wonder drug I thought it was when I first tried it. Also, I've seen several people overdose on the pure jwh and even spice blends. I personally don't think I have, but it's scary to see. One time I was drinking (coke and rum ftw) and gaping some, and it was like a trip almost. At one point I leaned against my refridgorator(sp?) to support myself and felt like I was melting into it. I guess it's alright stuff, but definatly NOT something to do if you've got issues.
Yeah, two spice binges, less than a hundred mg of JWH total I could have ingested, and I feel dumber. I don't know if I ever came back "up" to as smart as I was gradually, of if I'm just ruined. Oh well.
Doing large amounts of any substance not giving your brain chance to repair is damaging. Use paragraphs man
^^^ I know right? That hurt my freakin eyes. JWH-250 is actually pretty enjoyable. Good fer killin pain. Those RC cannabinoids are no replacement for weed but some are pretty interesting on their own. They each have their own charms but some are pure crap.
Here's my first time trip report:someone gave me a hit off of a joint of this crap a month ago. I took a hit, and INSTANTLY had a headache, a stomach ache and was no longer high from the at least quarter of weed I had smoked all day. Then, I took another hit of regular weed and the real weed cured all of the bullshit "effects" of the spice. I knew this shit was retarded but WOW. I'll try my best not to spit in the face of the next person that tells me they smoke spice when I burst into an uncontrollable fit of laughter
Sorry about the obnoxious text blocks, I wrote this during algebra on my iPod today lol. It's hard to format shit on these things. And yeah, I'm sure it was the binging that did the most damage. But I took like, 1000+ mgs in just over a month, it might have just been 1 month actually, I don't really remember. I feel normal again tho, I don't feel retarded anymore, and def not so anti social and shit. I don't think it damaged me permenently, but maybe I'm just used to it? I dunno, do I sound especially unintelligent? (disregard my atrocious spelling please, I never could spell lol)
Normally I'm the king of that, I'm the only one in my group of friends that can hold onto drugs without smoking/taking any, but I just lost all control when that girl left me. I know how pathetic that is, but like... I dunno man, I get really attatched to people like I said, loyalty is kind of the most important thing to me, which I can't help. I wish I didn't care about having someone close to me, but like then, I still have NOBODY. All my friends tolerate me, but I have to ask to hang, they don't ever invite me. I wouldn't care if I had a girl, but... I don't know what it is about me, but the only girls that I can talk to and really seem to like me are older by at least a year. There was a twenty year old that pretty much asked me out when I was sixteen. Of course that didn't happen due to the age difference, but to this day we're still good friends. She actually has been the one to get me all the acid and shrooms I've taken, lol. I might actually start a new thread about this, but why is it that I can only form any sort of bond with older girls? That shits fucked up.
Agreed^^ I've seen several overdoses from this stuff, and people FREAK THE FUCK OUT! It's aweful to watch, and I'm sure it's even worse to experiance. I've found that taking Xanax allowed me to push the dose quite far, it counteracted all the panic from a jwh OD, and left me only with the strang, twisted version of reality that only mega-doses of jwh can give you. I definatly do not reccomend doing this tho.
yeah I feel that. I'm way over my freaking out on any drug stage but I can tell if I were a less experienced user that there probably would have been some paranoia
Not to be a dick, but drugs arent the problem. emotions are the problem. you were going through a hard time and chose drugs as an escape. JWH or otherwise, thats not a good plan. JWH-018 can have some negative side effects, but i certainly wouldnt call it evil in powder form.
And also, not to be a dick, but the doses you were taking, and how often... Yeah. You should have treated it with much more respect than what you did. Its not the JWH's fault, but your own (I say that kindly!)