Egypt: Protests Turn Violent as Pro-Mubarak Forces Attack

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  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    He is not out in the true sense. He said that he will not run again in September/November. If everyone goes home and things go back to normal he will still run the country until that time, which is what he's planning to do as of right now. The anti-Mubarack protesters don't want that.
     
  2. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I think that's the important thing here. This protest was extremely well organized and very peaceful until Wednesday morning when Pro-Mubarack protestors came riding in on horses and camels swinging whips at people, police vans and fire trucks have deliberately run anti-government workers over, killing some.

    The violence all started after the pro-government protesters came in, literally on their high horses and started beating and murdering the anti-Mubarack protesters.
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    WARNING- These videos may be considered graphic by some

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thIkd4I2xm0&skipcontrinter=1"]YouTube - Mubarak regime killers : fast police truck run over protesters in Egypt

    Ignore the stupid comments and music this person put in the background

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL6TYfFHf4Q"]YouTube - Egyptian Crisis II FireTruck Runs over Protesters



    The violence certanly isn't one sided, but it is quite evident who has the upper hand.
     
  4. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    i disagree . you are given this opinion by the media
    which loads the news actualities with commentary , and the
    analysis is pretentious like so is your Obama pretentious in dictating
    the what of what must happen .

    you be a prophet if you can speak the is'ness
    of the people .
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    He isn't my Obama. I'm a little too far north.

    Yes, the events obviously do have a slant, which Odon was perhaps suggesting. The voice of the pro-Mubarack people are not being represented.

    However, as I wrote, they beat reporters and smashed their cameras because they didn't want any media coverage of the events taking place. They gave up their chance to have a voice by responding with violence.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I see a dancer spinning the world. We all dance a dervish dance.
     
  7. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    That's fair, I guess. I did say "on the whole".
    If you want to talk to "the other side" it's probably best not try and do that while people are heated up and not trusting the media to be fair.
    Not all pro-government supporters are out to cause trouble.
    And remember, what has happened to innocent pro-government supporters mingling with anti-government supporters.
    Have they been made a cup of tea?

    It depends what you think will occur if he actually leaves right now.
    Imho, there will be further demands.
    It won't quell the protests and subsequent riots.
    Imho, the protesters are just whipping themselves up into a frenzy now.
    It needs to end asap.
    We've been told it is a predominantly peaceful protest...but for what ever reason there is still riots going on.
    One side provoking the other and it doesn't take a co-ordinated plan from pro-government supporters to do that.
    Their mere presence is enough.


    Do you think those trucks purposely chose to run down the angry mob that were running around the streets like wild dogs?
    Do you think those drivers are being ordered to run down protesters or the people were in the way as the trucks were trying to get from A to B?
    Granted, the trucks didn't seem to wish to slow down...but what would have happened to the drivers if they had?
    Where were the drivers going?
     
  8. lilHippieChick

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    nope not last week lol
     
  9. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Yes. Slant? It's more a sheer face.
     
  10. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    :rolleyes: I'm shocked.
     
  11. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    Obama speaks like the king of the world , and
    is declaring he has defeated the revolution . he
    makes a noise and it is the noise of world order .

    first , a revolution is defeated by defining it .
    lines get drawn . the idea at the center is
    subverted . the idea was birthed from wholeness .

    so what's the big idea ? if it survives , you'll know .
    by love you will know . hippie , you know the
    hope and that the big idea exists and that right
    time right place action happens .
     
  12. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Not quite, we do have an idea of what the agenda of the pro-Mubarack protesters is...
     
  13. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I know. To keep him in office. Even though he wants to go now.

    I was talking about the violence and who was causing it.
    I was just talking about the general narrative of the protests.
     
  14. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    What about them?

    Did you see the footage? All the anti-Mubarack protesters were peacefully protesting in the square, then a bunch of pro-Mubarack people came riding in on horses and camels with whips and molotov cocktails.

    The anti-Mubarack protesters defended themselves with rocks and whatnot, but as far I know they were not the ones inciting violence. I'm sure there's the odd case, but not generally speaking.
     
  15. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    a general narrative has been supplied for your consumption
    because bread costs too much .

    i am such a man who grows grain and grinds it
    and eats it . should i have more than i can eat ,
    the abundance is free . this has not been the way of
    the world .

    what manner of revolution will lower the cost
    of Egyptian bread ?
     
  16. OhSoDreadful

    OhSoDreadful Childish Idealist

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    Every time a reporter asks someone who they will put in power they say "uhhhh...uhhhhh" how hard is it to yell "NO ONE!"?
     
  17. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    no one ! , friend .
     
  18. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    lunarverse, yes I have seen some of that footage.
    I've seen people on horse-back and on camels slowly plodding along with their fellow pro-government supporters...then the next thing I have seen is all hell breaking loose.
    Can we really know if the horses and camels were firstly charging around trying to hurt people, or where they caught up in a surge and tried to protect themselves.
    I have not seen any people on horses etc with Molotov cocktails, tbh.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgYnby7rFXs&feature=related"]YouTube - Cairo Battleground: Egyptians clash violently on Tahrir square
    Look at this video.
    It might be that the anti-government protesters were thinking: "How dare they have their own protest. How dare they use the same space as us"...and just charged at them.
    Editing, a re-arrangement of footage and omissions can tell a very different story.
    On the other hand, you might be right.
    I'm just saying we are being fed a very one-sided view of these protests, that's all...and it all started a while before the riots started.
     
  19. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    I think if anything american media would be more inclined to show the other half of the story in its bias. I mean, Egypt is an american ally afterall.
     
  20. deleted

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    American media is Making a fortune once again ... Rememeber how high the unemployment is here in the states.. Im happy those fools behind the walnut desk are rolling in cash once again...


    Reality checks dont come in the mail..
     
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