4-AcO-DMT 90 mg experiment *DO NOT ATTEMPT*

Interesting! My colleagues and I have experimented with various doses, ranging from 20mg to 130mg.

It's been my observation visual distortions start around 20mg. Spontaneous phosphenes and crazy warping of patterns at around 35..Anything above 40-50mg I feel is a waste, and does not make a significant different in anything except for body load.

My most interesting trip was a recent 40mg trip. The 4-aco was a very fine consistency and did not appear to be oxidized in the slightest. It was very slow to onset..maybe 45 minutes to an hour, and a very serene onset. Some trips I've had, it was very unpleasant for the first few minutes. I've come up hard, and felt like I was losing myself in his infinite sprawl of art and concepts.

Though I've since learned to roll with it and accept he impending death(as it were, I mean this more in the sense a way a Phoenix 'dies'). My trip after fully relinquishing that apprehension of transformation was by far the most interesting. I was in an SUV with the seats folded down in a very nice area. I find vehicles to be great due to the climate-control capability, and the hendonistic overtones 4-aco comes with. Sitting on my knees, looking out the window, I lost track of gravity(And all relativity for that matter). I really couldn't orient myself as to which way was down, not that it really seemed to matter. Having practiced various forms of yoga, my body is very nimble and flexible. Looking in from the outside, it probably would have looked like an astronaut floating around in a space capsule.

I guess that is what they mean by 'non-euclidian'. By then I was immersed in a 4-dimensional world of fractals, strange creatures, and what appeared to be various types of machinery. Luminous octopus tentacles, intricate plasma clockwork, and a very interesting synesthesia of percieved motion and visuals. I speculated this show I was observing was some sort of collective meeting ground that sufficiently evolved lifeforms can collaborate concepts.

At one point I positioned myself in the car to where I was laying on my back, looking up through the windshield at the stars. Was very beautiful and wonderous, to say the least. It is interesting to note that this is the first kind of breakthrough trip I've had. I've certainly seen manifestations of this hyperspace collaborative on previous trips, but not with this level of spontaneity or detail. It's also the first trip in which I have not vomited. I think this is both due in part to the purity of the recent product, and in my carefree mindset going in.

I'd love to write more, but Im strapped for time. I look forward to contributing to the forums here. :sunny:

 

^^^sounds like an intense trip. welcome to the forums

i look forward to maybe trying 4acodmt again someday, at a higher dose than 25 mg.

 

Sounds very N,N DMT like except for the observer perspective which sounds DPT like, regardless definitely has me interested in trying a higher dose.

 

agree with the fact that mushroom (never taken 4aco, but from what I've read it's metabolized into psilocin, so very mushroomesque) tolerance can vary drastically from individual to individual, I myself find 2-2.5g of GOOD mush giving me the "orgasm with the universe" experience, this seems to be the "norm" for my friends. However, I have personally watched an individual eat 10grams (weighed for sure) of the same mush that had us tripping on 2g's and straight face ask if he was ok to drink more moonshine! This was the second attempt at getting this guy to trip (he never had), ironically, 1.5 tabs of good acid had him in tears :shrug: just shows that neurotransmitters/receptors are indeed quite variable!

 

Iv been meaning to bring up high doses of 4-aco-DMT. 2 buddys of mine ate 130mg new years day, iv been pushing them for TRs but still havent gotten one out of them. people may say this was reckless or stupid or what have you but it was very much thought out and the two had much experience with this chemical. What they said was similar to clockworks post

one of them told me if felt like a 60mg dose which we had done many times before just with more of a body load and much more confusion. i thought this was quite interesting, maybe ill push him a bit more for a TR.
Eitherway thank you for the thread OP iv been wnting to tlk about this for a while

 

Hope my next batch is good so I can experience 4-AcO-DMT properly. *crosses fingers*

 

Wow. Wouldn't that have sucked if he really, really flipped out and attempted to convince you to take him to the hospital? You and your homie are both lucky. That could've been the worst day of your life. I'm. Happy things went well mane. I hope the experience puts your boy in his right direction.

 

60 mgs is a fairly low saturation point compared to the 2cx's no?

 

well whats the saturation point with them?
i defiantly agree tho 60 is low, ill talk to my friends n see if they have anything else to say on this, if they got enough ill write something up n if not ill just put the info here

 

Ive only heard through various reports on here of people mentioning them, their friends or other tr's of doses like:

2cb=100 mgs
2ci= 80 mgs
2ce=200 mgs (yes i believe that's what I read)

With continued increased effects over the 40-60 mgs range with the respective compounds.

 

You're wrong. It is both. i take 15 mg 2cp i barely trip at all. Hardly any visuals, almost nothin. My brother takes 6 mg 2cp, same stuff, trips really hard for a while. I have a high natural tolerance, AND I like to trip balls. I took 60 mg 4-aco-dmt and i got a super strong body high, but the visuals weren't that strong. my friend took 13 mg and he said it was overpowering and he constantly thought he was going to die and had a horrible trip. He was very inexperienced with psychedelics. I haven't done any more since then though, since I get lethargic and tired feeling on it which I dont like. I dont get this with PEA's or acid or even other tryptamines that i've noticed except shrooms which makes sense since 4-ho-dmt and 4-aco-dmt both are converted to psilacin in your system.

 

You're right, some people have a ton of certain receptors and trip easily, others have less and don't trip as hard and require more to get to the same level. Pretty simple.

 

do you have any evidence of this? also, 4-ho-dmt is psilocin

 

thats the best I found for the most part the rest is just someone on a forum saying it happens without anything backing it up.I cant find any studies or anything of the sort but thats probably why words like "theorized" and "probably" are used.

 

words like "probably" and "theorized" were my point. it isn't KNOWN that 4acodmt converts to psilocin in the body, but it's a possibility. lately a lot of people have been presenting it as fact though

 

wrong thread

 

nice to know, I thought it was known as fact not just theorized for some reason.

 

i've only tried 4aco once at 25 mg, and it was quite distinct from a mushroom trip. i suppose it could have been similar to like a gram of good mushrooms, but it wasn't just that it was weak. the trips just weren't all that similar, 4aco was much more clear headed, and externally focused, on scenery for example. shrooms are much more internally focused for me and are the most intoxicating psychedelic i've tried. i almost feel drunk on them. the only similarity i noticed were nice brightly colored CEVs on both

 

Sorry if someone posted this somewhere earlier in the thread but I just happen to stumble upon this @ bluelight. A dose of 125mg :dizzy2: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=525100

 

man i totally understand. you get for what you ask for with this stuff and its so beautiful and kind.

its just like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUbQtsMg0uk&feature=related"]YouTube - "Tsunami"

4-aco-dmt has a good spirit to it. good ol tryptamines. keepin the spirit alive does good for your soul.