saying goodbye to opie!!!

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addict...oxone-is-equal-to----mg-oxycontin/show/962052


another conversion i found online was that 1mg of Bupe equaled 12.5-25mg of oxy, kinda of a large window there, plus the fact they are totally different drugs.....but i was curious of this too, as i can see myself ending up on suboxone.....i know that i cant keep going on with these damn pills.......good question!!!

 

Well I was taking about 300mg a day before the subs. My doc recommended me take 24mg of subs daily. Now I don't normally go against a docs advice but I'm only taking 16mg a day. I took 1 8mg the 1st day and a hour later didn't feel much better so I took a 2nd. 2 of them made me feel great so I didn't see the point in taking the 3rd. Personally I don't wanna be on subs forever so I take know more then needed. I plan on the counseling more to help me deal with a sober life. I will start my on detox program and start tapering off soon. This is just me so don't necessarily go against your docs orders. My brothers a addict also and I hope when he's ready I can give him my leftovers. I here subs can become even more addicting then the drugs I was taking. I don't want another doc turning me into a monster again. Also a starting tool would be take a half wait a hour and take the other if needed since your tolerance is lower then mine, and continue as needed. That's basically what I did. I am not a doctor, I'm a addict so take this for what has helped one addict. Goodluck to all!

 

Nice info porkchop thank you.

 

Good luck man, ive been tryin to live sober, but its never happened for me, i cant do it, ive been doing opiates since i was 13 good luck to you, you need it!

 

Well I havent been around lately because I jumped straight off the Oxycodone to nothing. Why you ask, would I do that to myself? Well my reasoning was I felt I needed to feel the pain caused by the drug. I felt that gave me the best chance of actually staying off the drug. I flushed 40 30mg roxies this past Monday night and quit. I wont blow smoke, it was horrible as most of you know. I also called and canceled my pain contract and quit my pain doctor. But ill tell you what, I did surround myself with the necessary mediction, OTC stuff to help and without a doubt Imodium
Sudafed and sleeping help was a godsend. I am on my 4th day since taking Oxy, and i surely wont lie, if I had a roxy in front of me id gobble it up. No questions asked. Which is why i cancelled my pain contract because that was really my only connection to pain meds. I went through the docotor shopping phase. The numerous ER visits throughout my county.....etc
Now for the real reason of wanting to quit, which i havent heard much from anyone concerning dependancy or addiction to these meds. Weight Loss!. I mean scary levels. I have always been overweight, most of my adult life. When I joined the navy, some 30 years ago, yes Im 50. At that point I weighed 205lbs and was in probably the best shape ever. I got down to 194 at completion of boot camp, and began a climb over the years to over 270 lbs. In June 2010 I weighed 268lbs, in July i began the pain management program and started straight out on 30mg roxies. Obviously over 7 months time frame i was taking 60mg doses 3-4 times a day. TODAY, I WEIGH 204LBS. All from apitite depression caused by Oxycodone. People, friends and family think ive been on some crazy health kick. but those closest to me know better and they were scared for my life. This obviously is an extreme case of what this drug can do to you, and then there also is alot worse with addictions lasting years. We will see what happens as time goes by. I read the stats, the likelyhood that i wont be successful. Its my intention to rewrite those stats, even if its only in my small part of the world.

 

I know where your coming from. It's something in the brain and I don't know how to beat it. I can go for periods w/o but after a while the yearning sets in - before long I just give in.

Good luck SirItchAlot. Go for it man - if you make it, it will encourage us all.

 

suboxone is a miraculous drug, at least for some people. I made the horrible mistake of taking methadone ( prescribed) after only two years of heroin addiction ( i began IV use at age 28) . I easily quit dope many times just never stayed clean longer than a couple of weeks because i wasnt ready ( and i was dating the biggest h dealer in town) . Jeez, two weeks and your practically normal after quitting heroin. Methadone is a whole nother, horrible story, i know i could feel like total shit for at least the next year. I went from having a monkey on my back ( heroin) to a king-kong sized gorilla(methadone). I will take my last 40 mg dose this sunday, actually, then the clinic where i go is prescribing me one month of suboxone to take with me since i have decided to go stay with a great, sober friend in rural kansas to kick it all. He said he will lock me in the basement if he has to, and I asked him where he was two fricken years ago before i was all chubby from the methadone and had all these track scars!!!!
Anyways, suboxone is great. it has strong antagonists, so you really cannot feel any other opiates that you do while you are on it. ( dont shoot it and dont take it too soon after your last dose of opiates, you need to be pretty sick to take it!!! or your going to wish you were dead). It doesnt cause weight gain like methadone does ( at least in women). Its just great. But remember your going to have to ween off of it the same as any other opiate. BEST OF LUCK, really, there are such more wonderful fulfilling things to experience and focus on in life than a temporary high. Especially one that makes you soo sick after the fact. I say this now, but Im not sick yet either, lol, but I know i will be for most of the next week. I am DETERMINED not to end up nodding out on the streets of Tulsa or Wichita or anywhere ever again. I am sick of wearing long sleeves in the hot Arizona sun. I am sick of feeling like I am dirty, of my skin breaking out worse than when i was 16, sick of not having a libido ( I was SO MUCH happier back in the days of sex addiction). Once you are stable on the subs, mushrooms can help your brain restructure its patterns and are quite beneficial. They really help with your seratonin production and with the healing of your opiate receptors. Nothing in excess though, except for maybe herb. PEACE, HEALTH & HARMONY.

 

hope it works out for you man!!! I've been trying to get off opiates myself for some time now.. I did my very first roxy 30 the summer after senior year in highschool so i think i had just turned 18, held off pretty good for a while, then i was making ALOT of money the next summer and before i knew it i was blowing ALL of my money on the shit..and i've been on them ever since. However, it's not nearly as bad right now as it has been many times before i am thinking about using suboxone to get myself off prescription painkillers.. The thing is i go to college, and i don't want to have to take a semester off or something to go to rehab and im not sure meetings would actually help me too much. My father knows i am addicted to painkillers but my mom doesn't i'm just trying to think of a good way to ask him if i can get put on suboxone..

 

Congrates bottle! Pain killer be honest with your dad he already knows. Subs are a miracle drug but theirs so much more to staying clean. I still think of using but I want forget all the misery the dope caused. You just gotta find the courage to do something different then turning back to the misery. I hope everybody that's been trapped by the dope can find a way out.

 

I didn't read every single post but to clear up some confusion if someone already hasn't. Planthead--here is analogy my sub doc gave me on how oxy and subs effect the receptors. Imagine your brain being one first with a hole and the oxy comes to fill that hole and beats on that hole in your brain and those receptors over and over and over again every time a person uses it. Now suboxone is like a key that goes into that hole in the brain and locks into place with those receptors without banging and damaging the receptors. This allows your brain to heal and that is why after a couple weeks of continued use you can't get "high" off it. You may feel a little glow but no high. Its still giving you the opiate stimulation your brain and body desires without as much damage.

Now, SIRITCHALOT, i have great fear that if you are wanting to go against the doctors plan that you have one of your own. With precise and plausible goals. I don't take as much as i am prescribed to take everyday but i plan on taking it for the entire duration im supposed to. I thought the same thing that i could just take less and quit and it would be better for me. Until I was three months in feeling better than ever then i got back home around those same people and situations and the next thing i knew i was back were i was lying to my friends and gf about where i was and picking up extra shifts at work over break to afford my habit. It was only supposed to be a one day relapse thing that turned me right back into that addict. This made me realize that even when you feel strong on subs their is still that addict inside you. I told my doctor what happened and he wasn't mad and he told me its normal for people to relapse at least once. It confirmed the notion that he was right and that i have to complete the full treatment to have better chance at staying sober. He has a chart that showed me those people that dropped out early, 90 percent of the time called him back eventually to try the sub program again. Compared to a much lower relapse rate of something like 30 to 40 percent for those who completed treatment. I just want you to take that into perspective. IF your doctor truely cares about you like i know mine does he isnt their to make the money off of you and he wants to help you. Let him do his job, he is an addiction specialist for a reason. Why not listen and approve your chances of staying clean. Just something to think about. I am 5 months in and after my relapse at the three months mark i am still prescribed one a day and i take half. Its a good dose i know i can stay clean on and next month im going to take a fourth.

 

Ness, I couldn't agree more. I originally got on subs at 24mg and felt it was to high for me. I didn't like, trust the doctor I saw. I didn't post this part cause it's a long story but I found a new doc last week I finally got into the new program. So now I'm with a new sub doc that I trust and am taking 12mg a day. She agreed I was started to high. I hardly ever go against a docs orders but I learned a hard lesson in the methadone clinic days. I'll never end up that way again. It was alot to post originally but I was working hard the whole time to find a doctor that I truly felt cared about my well being. Thanks for the great post, stay clean!

 

Good luck getting clean man. I've tried several times but I've just found that the world is too cold of a place without opiates to comfort me. With support of friends and family hopefully you can be clean.

 

Working on day 9 here, cold turkey! Its going ok, some head cold stuff lingering, insomnia is better, but forget about energy. Im taking Super B Complex, and im eating much better than I was first week, exercise....etc Still no energy. But I will tell you the old lady did enjoy me following her around like a leg humpin dog these last couple of days!

 

Nice job BottleFED! Keep it up! Dont cave! I kicked a 240-300mg 5 yr oxy habit... Cold Turkey! Been clean just over a year now! Keep chuggin and your energy WILL come back! It was tough but I aint ever goin back! I do enjoy reading about it though! =)

 

Outstanding man - Keep the encouragement coming. Why the hell are we saddled with this crap.

 

Ive been clean off dope for almost a year man. its very possible. i just realized how much of a waste of life it is and ive moved on. you can to.

 

It's like being 14 years old again isn't it (2 pump chump) hey that's amazing bottlefed I hope you keep it up and get some energy back. Have you tried imodium AD? Although all things considered it's sounds like your good but it may help with some WD.

 

To those of you getting clean and the last couple with a year clean thanks for sharing that info. It gives hope to a addict as myself, thanks!

 

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. My refill day would have been today, tomorrow will see me rise and say no! I want that as a routine......

 

Your a stronger man than I, god bless ya and good luck.......get that monkey off your back!!!!!