New study - cannabis increases chance of psychosis

Ecstasy Medicine!

 

This pretty much sums it up. It has long been known that a genetic predisposition to schitzophrenia can be triggered by certain environmental factors, including any kind of mind altering substance. It seems to me that this article was written with the purpose of retrieving old information and applying it only to one drug in order paint that drug in a negative light.

 

What if I said "Anyone who has a 'study' that taking hemlock makes you die is lying - those people were going to die anyway and the sooner it happens the better"?

Wouldn't that be foolish?

We don't know everything there is to know about any drug yet. There must be something, some new discovery that would make you change your mind. I'm not saying it has to be this one, but it's extremely naive to say that no discovery will ever change your mind.

I'm pro-pot but I'm also pro-information and education. It's disappointing that this site only allows one side to be displayed as news, especially when it claims to be all for free speech.

 

I think a couple of the things we should look at in regards to the study are:
1. Who funded the study? 9 times out of 10 the person who is paying the bill can have a major influence on the study's results

2. what were the methods of their research? There was a study not to long ago that "proved" cannabis caused lung cancer in lab rats. the problem with the study was they were giving these rats a comparatively impossible amount of cannabis smoke, that no person could smoke no matter how hard they tried, and it might have been only one rat that could be diagnosable. The point is that knowing how they came to the results is VERY important.

 

^ Do you have a link to the study 'proving' cannabis causes cancer in rats. I understand you can't generalize a study like that to humans and the doses may have been unproportianate but I would be interested in checking it out...

 

Anything can hasten psychosis for those with latent schizophrenia. For example, alcohol and too much stress can speed up the condition. That's still not a good reason to ban cannabis. Just because some people can't enjoy peanuts because of allergies doesn't mean no one can. Maybe we can try to get schizophrenia screening to help inform people with the condition to stay clear of all drugs and stress if possible.

I agree with you, OP. Cannabis isn't all butterflies and lollipops, but either is life... If we go out in the sun, we can have an increased risk of skin cancer, doesn't mean we should halt our lives because of it. (I know this might not be what you're saying)

 

I would like to begin a movement to illegalize stress, seeing as how there is a link between a high stress life and the onset of schizophrenia.

 

All in favor...! :2thumbsup:

 

I find it funny that some stoners who smoke everyday think pot is 100% absolutely harmless.

You really think that drug is not changing the way your brain functions?


just because you can still work a job and be smart and not overdose does not mean it is not harmful. you just do not care about the changes it does to your brain.

people even forget that pot increases blood pressure and heart disease risk. proven fact!


just like when you do MDMA to much you fry your serotonin receptors. some do it so much they can no longer feel happy.

Same thing with THC. After you smoke so long you delete your thc cannaboid receptors. They do grow back over time once you quit but if you have smoked everyday for several years then you have damaged and drained them so much that some never grow back.

I personally quit smoking weed for a long time after being a heavy smoker and when I toked again I honestly got about the same high as when I quit. I just did not have to smoke the same amount but no matter how much I smoke I do not get more high than that. So for those of you confused. what I mean is I do not think I can ever get as high as the first year I smoked weed ever again.

 

Sadly no I came upon the article in passing through a chat site much like this, and now that you mention it I cant specifically recall if it was lung cancer. It might have been some other issue, But what I do know for sure was that the study was funded by those who are prohibition supporters. I also think it could have been a foreign study either British or Canadian.

Anyway the point remains the same. Knowing who paid for the research and how they came to their results are vitals components of pointing out the fallacies.

 

& to paraphrase the earlier poster, take a step back: 'You need to be realistic who pays for the studies.'

'Allow me to control the money, and I care not who makes the rules.'


Marijuana madness, re-hashed?

Yeah and on the issue of behaviour, faith, belief: I just had a guy over who was a total shit. AND he smoked pot - To cover up for his total shit-ness. Boog and other members helped me to see through these lies and deception. Thanks.

 

I also tried to find studies proving cannabis causing cancer in rats and the only thing I could come up with was a government sponsored study from 2006 that proved the opposite.

Here is a link to that:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060526083353.htm

 

And the first step in that movement; legalize cannabis so that people can chill out and not worry about shit as much.

 

Nice, that's with smoking too which I was under the impression would be the cause for marijuana associated cancer. But, Again that's a correlational finding like the op's article, nothing was 'proved' in this study. I would think rats would be injected with thc anyways, which I'm not sure how that would produce cancer.

 

No drug is completely harmless but marijuana is relatively benign in comparison with pretty much every other drug out there. If half of America can go out and get shit faced every weekend at bars, destroy their livers, pass around STDs, probably kill a kid in a DUI related incident on the way home, then I feel perfectly justified chilling out every night and smoking a joint.

 

Yes, but social justification should not blur the line of scientific and medical study.


The fact is that cannabis use can cause some harm in some individuals. Just because it's less harmful than other substances doesn't take away from this fact or mean that people should not be informed of the sometimes negative consequences.

 

I guess I had a stoner reaction when writing that response lol...."hey man, I know the harmful effects of pot and i'm gonna smoke the shit anyways, get off my case."

you are correct sir. I think people should take the initiative to research the health consequences of marijuana and I think that information should be widely available.

I do not think people should exagerate negative health claims concerning marijuana in order to villify the plant entirely, which I think a few individuals are trying to do in this thread.

 

I think the reason it probably wasn't accepted as news is because it's old news that has been known for a long time.

The media tends to reiterate the same old negative claims and findings when it comes to cannabis. The fact is that there's just not that much bad news to report on it. So every once in awhile they dress up some old fact and pretend that it's a new study.

 

It's not old news. If it was it would not have appeared in a medical journal. Believe it or not, research is not a bunch of scheming scientists scrambling after money for whatever article they can get paid for.


To those who defend it against alcohol, there is also this finding:
Those who used any type of substance developed psychosis about two years younger, whereas the use of alcohol did not affect the age at which psychosis began.

 

Not only is old news but if you read the same story put out by Reuters it wasn't even a new study. They took data from other studies and setting their own criteria, re-evaluated it to get their results

I enjoy it when people try to push the negative. We all know it's not harmless, but neither is walking across the street. But I'd bet for every negative study I can show you 3 studies that point toward good things cannabis does.