Half white? No, your black

and you still haven't answered the question...what is "black"? lmao

 

don't those of you that are saying it is biological and not a construct see that you are proving our point in arguing about or being unable to define who is "black"/"white"? you are proving our argument! "race" is determined by the beholders and the holders.

dtfw, for instance, is part trini. i see trini's as more latin looking with some african influence. while others may see them as "black". "race" is so arbitrary, it means nothing. there is no genetic link to "race". i never said there is no genetic link to skin color, hair texture, bone structure, but there is no race gene!

 

Just because race is a culturally constructed concept without a universal definition doesn't mean it isn't real.

 

yeah, it's a real construct with no biological basis.

 

"In biology, subspecies, race and breed are equivalent terms"

Would you say that there is no difference in breed of dogs? That it is just some "social construct"?

FYI if everyone thought like you, science would not progress in the field of breed/race specificness. No medical or comparative advantages would be known... People would lose a lot of money betting on a white team vs a black sports team, etc....

 

There are significant pigmentation genetic variations which favor dark skin for persons born from an African or South Asian background because of adaptation to their climate those are genetic variations, are real,and are useful scientifically.

As I mentioned before, ethnicity is a broader and more complete/modern definition of the same scientific basis of trying to sort out vast differences in peoples which profoundly affect not only scientific research, which is my interest in investigating further medical research.

But also understanding cultural differences is important, Which yes, the color of skin/geographic region/ has had a profound affect on human history, migration, genocides, wars, and proliferation.

So to say that race is a social construct is incorrect I would say. Just a less inclusive perhaps more antiquated term ethnicity.

 

No, race is an antiquated term for the modern research of ethnicity with a very clearly defined genetic basis.

 

dude, you two are really arguing the shit out of the semantics for people who pretty much agree.

 

Geography, more broadly refereed to as ethnicity.

I elaborated in this post before yours...

 

That was my point two pages ago.

And I got a sort of condescending 'wow you still don't get it' as a response. So I tried to elaborate.

It's bloody semantics.

 

For some reason she thinks Meliai is the only one who gets it *shrug*

I think she just hates penises

 

Who doesn't? :biggrin:

 

lol y'all are fun. and it is just semantics. my aim was to have dftw look at "race" and "ethnicity" in a new light.

once again, i invite y'all to check out this interactive link. it's pretty cool if you like to learn things: http://www.pbs.org/race/000_General/000_00-Home.htm

 

There are certain breed standards that dogs must meet to qualify. There are no purebred humans and there are no breed standards to qualify as black or white or asian.

If dogs were interbred to the point where all the different breeds blended into each other, then breeds would not exist anymore. That is essentially what has happened with the human race.

 

It's the opposite, Taxonomically, there's no such thing as a pure breed dog, all dogs are simply domesticated species of caninis lupis, the gray wolf. These dogs have been bred with specific characteristics in mind, using selective breeding to create a wolf into a poodle.

A poodle just shares similar appearances and genetic traits which can be traced back to make sure they are specifically that breed. In that sense theres not much difference between a 'breed' of dog, and the classical concept of 'race'.

I'll be in Ho Chi Minh next week. Vietnam has 53 ethnic groups, some of which have been in relative isolation for hundreds of years. They share similar genetic traits which are specific to them, and can be used to trace their ethnic lineage. In that sense, you could call some member of the Moóung tribe 'pure' Mo'oungs.

You're right though. The world is getting smaller, and the worlds rapidly losing languages and ethnic groups. Within a thousand years their only may be one global ethnicity.

But the worlds ending in 2012, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

 

wow this came of a bit racist , but im reallly reallly lite but my mom was mixed with black and white and she was really tan soo i just go by "hi im katelin im mixed" and then if they say mixed with what i just say black and white its pretty simple

 

think about black people. most have no idea what area of africa they are from.

oh and I know a girl that is half black and half white yet she looks like she is 100% white. you would never guess she has black in her.

 

Thats probably because she is just saying she is black... Some people thing that is a cool thing, and I imagine she is saying that. Unless you don't know black traits. Its pretty easy to notice that someone is even 1/4 black. Skin color isn't but a 1/10 of what makes a black (african) person look different.

One of the blackest people I have ever seen had white traits, and was from egypt. Semantics semantics...

 

You introduce yourself that way?!

 

Really? Most?! Bs.