Why does meditation diminish libido?

I tried mindfulness meditation a year ago and a few weeks of meditating diminished my libido and I stopped masturbating completely, while I normally masturbated an average of 4 times daily.

Recently, I've been masturbating an average of 7 times daily. However, I feel that it's beginning to stop as I meditate. Women are beginning to lose their magic. Why is that? Does meditation have potential to reduce competitiveness and ambition? I can't stay focused on one thing for very long, and I lose interest unless there is quick and noticeable reward or pleasure involved.

I don't understand Kundalini syndrome. Meditation activates the parasympathetic nervous system (rest and digest) but Kundalini syndrome consists of sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight) activity, according to this site:

http://biologyofkundalini.com/

Perhaps when the frontal lobe gets too active and parasympathetic activity is too high, the body spontaneously responds by increasing limbic system activity to increase sympathetic activity to maintain homeostasis?

 

Here's my theory.

When you meditate i think your right it slows u down and works on the sympathetic nervouse system.

Now, kundalini when rising, due to drugs, exercise whatever it undoubtedly increases seretonin. When you increase seretonin you want more to feel the same, so you go to whatever measure u can to get more happy feelings. kundalini is like a drug u always want to raise it once your on its "wave" of pleasure lol
When I exercise or do whatever to get my kundalini going I always get turned on pretty easy


Also, meditating is much more internal than external,so my question would be when u have sex do u have ur eyes open (watching person or tv/computer) or do u have ur eyes closed?
Uppers such as caffeine,ritalin etc. really increase libido as it works on your kundalini in multiple ways.

 

Sympathetic is "fight or flight", you mean parasympathetic. What I'm asking about is that meditation increases the parasympathetc system while kundalini syndrome is sympathetic, the opposite. Serotonin generally reduces libido, what you are describing is dopamine and testosterone.

 

ya thanks for picking up I switched the two.
dopamine, testosterone, seratonin, adrenaline all work together, never one without the other

 

Maybe it has to do with the fact that masturbation can be seen as a form of avoidance. Any type of compulsive/obsessive behaviour can bee seen as avoidance. Whether its masturbating, drugs, TV, eating, working out relentlessely... All those behaviours is your ego trying to ignore youre ''true self''. Maybe theres some unresolved issues in there, some sadness, some fears, some emotions you havent integrated yet. Maybe masturbating 7 times a day is a way of distracting yourself from that.

As you meditate, you learn to befriend your true self and whatever it is you are feeling. Maybe you are getting more and more comfortable with your true self and you just dont need that much distraction anymore...

You will notice I say ''maybe'' alot. this is becasue I dont know you, and I am no expert on the matter. I have only been meditating for a few weeks. Its a theory like another - its up to you to see whether it applies to your situation.

 

I also agree with the theory that whatever steam you're blowing jacking off 7 times a day (too much ya?) is calming or being put to at least some ease when accepting meditation is abound. Perhaps explore where all that unresolved energy comes from?

 

I'm a thing that lives in this world, I find it difficult to call myself human. I hate everyone around me and I see social interaction as a game to win power, money, or sex. I have no real hobbies or interests. I won't settle for being anything less than the most powerful person in the world someday. I could just do something pleasurable and kill myself while doing it, but why settle for that if someday I will have the power to do something much more pleasurable while I kill myself?

I never feel sadness, just anger. I never feel embarrassment. I am angry when people are happy when it's not caused by me, yet I am happy when people feel bad because I can make them feel happy and get more out of them for making them feel happy.

But if I can no longer get anything out of someone, I make them feel bad. I might make them feel guilty and make them think something is their fault, or make them feel bad for me.

You get the idea, what is my ego and what is my true self?

 

Keep in mind I am not the dalai-lama and I'm just a normal guy searching just like you, and im sorry if this might sound like a know-it-all wannabe guru, but I just want to share what my experience has been.

EVERYTHING you just mentionned is your ego. Power, money, sex, hobbies, interests, even the aspiration to be the most powerful person in the world. You might THINK this shit matters, but trust me, it doesnt. Trust me when I tell you I am no stranger to this constant feeling of being in competition with everyone, or feeling like I'm better than everyone.

I'm taking a risk by assuming things, but if you are like me, you must get pretty pissed off when you are talking about something and someone corrects you in front of people huh? Or what about when someone tries to teach you something you've known for a long time? Do you get that feeling of being like ''yeah, I know, stupid'' and get almost frustrated at the person for underestimating you? If you do - EGO.

You talk about how you feel ''happy'' when people are happy and it's caused by you. You don't feel happy. You feel distracted. how do I know? Take away all the people, the TV, the jerking off, the quest for power, and whatever else it is you distract yourself with, and I dont think you will feel good about yourself. You will go out and use people again, and then ''hate'' them and move on to someone else or some other distraction when you see that they are not yielding lasting or unconditional results regarding your peace of mind.

We've heard it a million times ''peace comes from within''. We've all shrugged it off as new age hippy bullshit at one time or another, but trust me, when you start REALLY looking at whats inside, it starts to make alot of sense.

A few years ago a man told me that 90% of my anger was misdirected sadness. I told him to fuck off, laughed at him and called him a fag. It stuck with me however. Now I'm seeing he may have been right all along.

I say keep going with the meditation. If you do it right, there may be some unsettling times ahead. As your ego gets thinner and thinner you might get much more emotional in general, you might realize that you've been carrying alot of shit inside, but you may also see things in a different light. I have a friend that I've known for 10 years and I feel like I just started getting to know him in the last few weeks. why? because I stopped seeing him as a stepping stone. I stopped trying to be the loudest guy in the room and trying to make everyone laugh all the time, I sat back and listened for a while, and it's amazing. Thats when you start feeling connected to others and stop feeling so alone. Thats when you see that youve been running and trying so hard for such a long time, and thats when you start asking yourself what the hell was the point in all of that.

I might be projecting, because this is exactly where I am right now, but i dont know, maybe this can help you on your path. You are SO much more than this shell of yours.

 

If it doesn't matter, then what does matter? Remember that we are still animals. The meaning of life is still reproduction.

Not really, I like to learn from my mistakes.

Well it's them that are wrong, not me, so I just laugh about them underestimating me.

I can't quite picture that.

What's inside of you? I don't seem to have anything inside. I like to participate in sexual activities with women, hurt them, worship them, hurt men/animals (they are the equivalent to "things", they aren't magical like women), destroy things that aren't mine, and build things that are mine. Without all that, I'm nothing.

I tried Ritalin once. It made me empathetic, compassionate, apologetic, sad, and guilty/remorseful. I also had a need to interact socially.

Peeling back my desire for power, I simply don't trust governments with my life. I want to be free, not in some lifetime jail. Feeling emotions like the ones Ritalin gave me wouldn't help me become free someday.

 

Well in that case its possible that I was completely wrong, or that you are where I was when that dude was telling me all that hippy shit a few years ago.

I'm not saying we're not animals, but we do have something more. Whether you call it awareness, hyper-intelligence, conscience, a soul if youre religious, whatever it is, you can't deny that we are the only animal that doesnt live solely on instinct. We are more complex than that. The fact that we can think and feel also means that things are a fuck of alot complicated for us. We can carry emotional baggage, have regrets, fear, wonder, amazement and everything that makes us human.

If all you REALLY want to do is destroy everything that isnt yours and build what is yours, conquer the world and use people, and that you would have no remorse or compassion for the people on your path, including the ones who you once considered your allies... then I guess I don't really know what to tell you. I'm pretty sure that if you DID ever become the most powerful person in the world, you still wouldnt be content, and you wouldnt feel any better about yourself, and you'd probably be pretty lonely, but it's your path.

 

oh, and regarding the government, yeah the government sucks balls, but thats the beauty about inner-peace. Should you achieve it one day, no amount of Government or outside circumstance will be able to take it away from you.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like people with a conscience. They are indeed very interesting. I love it how sensitive women are with their emotions, how volatile a reaction they get from such seemingly insignificant things, and how they are wired to desire safety, security, and the happiness of others.

What is it, to feel good about yourself? People are a template of emotions, morals, memories, experiences, facts, and opinions. The environment determines all of those things in people. Your opinions could be totally different if you know something or didn't know something. You could be born a dull person, or an intelligent person. You could be born a cold person or a warm person. Someone you love could be someone utterly despicable if that person didn't get a chance to learn a lesson about something when they were young.

 

nice thread..

I agree that the path to enlightenment is not through the ego.
The public agents do everything they can to encourage the ego. That's their job.
(the public includes all corporations, including the government corporation the UNITED STATES FEDERAL CORPORATION, and people who only know how to operate through their STRAWMAN/juristic person)

It's your job, our job, to wake up and smell the roses. Get out of the ego, let it die, as it is not us, it is a third-party parasite. Letting go of your ego is like letting go of a tapeworm; you would not feel any great loss. Spiritually they are called the egregore:

And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy,
attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth,
and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless
hunger and thirst, and cause offenses. And these
spirits shall rise up against the children of men and
against the women, because they have proceeded
them. (1 Enoch 12)
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My favourite quote from Enoch. The 'giants' the translator is referring to are the ego/the egregore. They don't like humble people to be the host, so they leave when we start meditative or prayerful practices.

 

I just want to thank everyone. I knew nothing about this stuff, and I've been curious. This thread helps a lot.

 

I meditated well yesterday, but it isn't working today for some reason. Maybe it's because I committed some acts of violence today. I'm hoping to get the impulse control benefits of meditation, while keeping the ego. I'm not sure if it's possible or not. I have only masturbated once in the past couple of days but a few times today. In fact, I masturbated after I meditated each time. It must not be very effective meditation if I can masturbate right after meditating.

I agree, the ego is a third-party parasite. Nobody will lose it unless I keep mine though.

 

First of all - theres nothing wrong with masturbating. Jerk away! You shouldnt really see it as ''im meditating to stop masturbating''. If you keep going with the meditation, your mind will slowly settle and your compulsions will naturally subside. So dont try to control it. Just go with it. Part of meditation is accepting what you are at the moment and trusting you are where you need to be right now.

This actually also ties in with the ''what does it mean to feel good about yourself'' part. I think feeling good about yourself has nothing to do with being perfect or the strongest or the most powerful. It has nothing to do with comparing yourself with other people and feeling ''better'' than them. As cheesy as it sounds, it is about being ok with whatever imperfection you have.

And as for ''no one can lose their ego unless I keep mine'', I'm sorry to break it to you buddy, but this is completely wrong! You are not going to change anyone. You might be a positive influence, and that's great, but ultimately they will be responsible for themselves. So basically, kick back, relax, the weight of the world is not on your shoulders. The more peaceful you get on the inside, the less you will feel the need to control the outside.

 

Masturbating is a waste of time, and well, wasting time is not a key to success. I won't be able to ever pull off my sexual fantasies unless I will be as successful as I hope to be, anyway.

Many imperfections can be corrected, and most people don't bother to. I do though, that's something that makes me more effective a human being. Acing in everything isn't important, just the adaption to whatever challenge comes up. The most adaptable one will win. Losing my ego isn't a way to adapt and win. Increasing my ability to work, regulate my anxiety, and regulate my sex drive are ways to adapt and win.

Life is just a game of survival and reproduction, nothing more. People only have human emotion and awareness because it helps survival and reproduction.

EDIT: I have been experiencing an interesting phenomenon in meditation lately. Sometimes, I meditate well and something clicks. I then feel sort of a stillness, not sure what it is exactly. Meditation reduces activity in a part of the parietal lobe (involved in spatial reasoning). Perhaps this is that feeling. I meditated a year ago or so and only a couple of times out of many dozens, I would meditate and fall asleep, but after I woke up, I could make myself work as much as I wanted on boring, productive tasks. That state is my goal, how far am I from reaching it now?

EDIT: I have just began to experience constant saliva production and swallowing during mediation. I swallow every fifteen seconds or so because I can't focus on anything else. It's fucking annoying, it's something that began to happen to me back then, too.

 

Ultimately I can't convince you of anything. I shared my experience and how it has been for me, and it's up to you to come to your own conclusions with it. Maybe if you keep meditating you will come to the realization that what you call ''winning'' is completely irrelevant when it comes down to the big picture.

As for the saliva thing, rest your tongue against the roof of your mouth. It helps.

 

Is there something you find easy to call yourself?

You don't know everyone around you.
Do you see posting here as a game to win power, money, or sex?

You are interested enough to have this discussion.

People will embrace you or not, no matter what you do. Understand that anger is a variant of fear. You are simply not responsible for the choices of another. You cannot in fact, "make happy or make sad", anyone who does not choose those things for themselves.

So your discomfort here is caused by a delusion about the way things are,
but you are not alone, the attraction of guilt is very strong. Love does not seek it's own and what many people identify as love is actually commerce, a trading of affections, tit for tat.

Except that it is not in fact equal exchange as there is always something owing and we regard it as profit to pay a little and expect much in return. The currency that is exchanged is varying levels of guilt, not love.

This is probably why you have a bone to pick with others because the way you are attempting to manipulate them, guarantees they will be proven unworthy, because the measure you give is the measure you receive.

The ego identifies itself by how it is different from everyone else, but we are called homo sapiens because of the ways we are the same.

 

I can only think of the word "thing" to call myself.

Posting -> Information -> Appliance -> Power, money, or sex

Yes, because it's important.

I can control peoples' emotions and their emotions can control them, though it is indeed impossible to directly control people.

Delusion? Nope, not a chance. Not sure what you mean by the second part.

I agree.

I deserve everything I win. If I hurt someone or take something from them, it's their fault for letting it happen, I do what is best for me.

I just manipulate people because it's what's necessary to get what I want. If they would give me what I want without a problem, I would manipulate them into giving me something of value that is a problem.

That probably explains why I can't call myself human.

I'll try that, thanks!