I don't consider myself bisexual.

Discussion in 'Bisexual' started by Raven Eis Meister, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. Raven Eis Meister

    Raven Eis Meister Guest

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    I don't tell others how to label their sexualities, and I hate it when others do it to me.

    I know a good-looking human being when I see one.
    I love men, and am very, very, very attracted to them. Always have been.

    I've had sex with females. I would have sex with a female. But only to please a guy who is also involved. It's fun. I also get to show off (I'm very good with girls in the bedroom).

    But as far as going one-on-one with a girl; four hands are better than one. It's the same reason why I may sometimes go to bed with a male that I'm not attracted to.

    Emotionally, I can't be with a female. I can't. I've tried, believe me. I can't. One vagina is enough for me to have to deal with for the rest of my life.

    So, while I can appreciate and even envy a female's beauty, I'm not actually aroused by them. To have sex with them is either a game or just the need to feel another person touch me. I'm not emotionally attracted to them, either. Meanwhile, I'm emotionally and physically attracted to males.

    I can understand why this would translate to "bisexual" by a lot of people's standards. Or "bi-curious." Or "pansexual" since if I do get desperate enough for physical contact, I would probably have sex with a tranny. But I identify as heterosexual. Not heteroflexible. Not straight with bi tendencies. No. Heterosexual.

    >_<
     
  2. Charmed262

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    Well I say do what you what labels don't matter. Do what makes you happy.
     
  3. SweetBlasphemy

    SweetBlasphemy Senior Member

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    I can relate. I prefer to check out girls even if I don't feel sexually attracted to them. Every once in a while I see a girl that turns me on but mostly I just think girls are beautiful and I prefer to admire the female form. I also love cock and attractive men but I don't really scope them out especially since I'm in a hetero relationship. Still, many of my fetishes and fantasies focus on girls. I have fooled around with girls in my day, especially when drinking, but I can't seem to become emotionally attached to girls like I can with guys. I also have a hard time making and keeping close female friends as I just don't identify with many other females.

    I have no interest in ever pursuing a relationship with a female because as you said, one bitchy vagina on the rag is enough to deal with lol but the idea of fooling around with another girl in front of my bf is pretty hot... I still consider myself heterosexual. Not that I have anything against bisexuals, I just think many/most women have a natural unspoken attraction to the same sex even if they are mainly interested in males... not sure why, it's just something I've noticed.
     
  4. Duck

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    Dude, you are so completely bisexual.



    (I don't get why this bothers you.)
     
  5. GLENGLEN

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    You Have Sex With "BOTH SEX'S", So Bisexual It Is........:juggle:



    Cheers Glen.
     
  6. KewlDewd66

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    If you choose to operate beyond the world of "labels", so be it. The world around you will remain as indifferent as it has always been. For all I care, you can also claim to be a Martian... It is really your life.

    You will soon realize that the word spreads around and that your environment will cease to grant you the usual levels of credibility. This may have a very adverse effect on at least some of your efforts to achieve anything you may want to achieve.

    The truth is that you can declare your sexual life - your own private matter. (This works much better in upper echelons, tho.) And simply refuse to comment on it. This is your good right and you should stand for it.

    Or

    You should be telling the truth as defined by the majority standards and the labeling imposed by them.

    KD
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I tend to complain about girls a lot.

    But I find as I get older far less able to relate to straight guys. Nowadays too impossible to crowbar them away from their flatscreen TVs and out of the house. Not that I ever had much in common anyway.

    Gay guys are for the most part self centered little shits, and yes I do include myself in that description

    Which leaves the girls. In some ways I do love them, love playing Barbie, dressing them up in little outfits, stopping them from dressing like their moms too early ;) , coochie coochie coo when their little ones pop out etc

    But the whining and the mood swings...Oh...My...God! Fuck!


    So anyway, labels they are age and environment dependant. Dont think I'd be able to turn even if I wanted to, she'd have to be mute and I'd have to be deaf
     
  8. GLENGLEN

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    ...:smilielol5:..........:2thumbsup:



    Cheers Glen.
     
  9. Si69

    Si69 Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, this would be my response too.

    But whats in a label - you can call/term yourself anything you want - pansexual? - but sadly the res of the world does use labels.

    Simon
     
  10. SweetBlasphemy

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    I didn't know if this was directed at me or the OP but I had a response typed out earlier and my Kindle took a dump on itself and I lost it... but assuming it was directed at me, I will try to clarify my view...

    It wouldn't bother me if others viewed me as bisexual, I never said it did, but my thing is that if I don't live or act as a bisexual, I don't feel I truly am one. I don't hit on girls, I don't have sex with girls, I don't have any desire to ever become romantically involved with a girl - in fact, I can't tolerate most of them personality-wise, but I can however admit and acknowledge when a female is attractive. I do have fantasies that focus on girls, but the pleasure I get from them stems more from knowing that my bf would be pleased and turned on to see 2 girls. Sure, I made out with a random girl at the bar a few years ago when I was piss drunk and fooled around with my best friend once or twice when we were 15 but... I was drunk... and 15. If I went the rest of my life without ever touching a woman again I wouldn't feel deprived.

    I feel that it takes more than being open enough to admit that someone of the same sex is attractive and not being horrified by toying with the idea of being intimate with a member of the same sex to qualify as being bisexual. I think your heart as well as your body needs to be in it, and my lack of ability or desire to emotionally connect with women past friendly acquaintances is something I feel would make it impossible for me to truly be bisexual. Girls are beautiful and I like to admire them, but they will never get me off the same way guys do (which is why I said earlier I like to check out girls even if I don't feel sexually attracted to them).

    It's kind of like someone who doesn't go to church or pray calling themselves a Christian. Sure, the rest of the world might label them as such because they might have grown up in a Christian family or went to Catholic school, but if they don't incorporate it into their lives then how can they accurately label themselves a Christian? Or another example is people who eat fish but still call themselves vegetarians. Most people might still consider them vegetarian, but they technically aren't and it's inaccurate to label them as such. So if the rest of the world would like to call me bisexual because I can admit when a woman is pretty then that's fine, but I still believe it's a misnomer.
     
  11. Raven Eis Meister

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    Doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when people choose to call me something I feel deep down in my heart doesn't apply to me. What matters is that I know what I am. Sorry for speaking my mind. Don't know why this translates into agitation to you. :/ I don't mind that you think I'm bi. But, in the end, I'm not. Either way, thank you for your opinion.
     
  12. Duck

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    Pick one.
     
  13. Raven Eis Meister

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    Fine. I'll explain.
    Bisexuality doesn't bother me. It also doesn't bother me when people think, in their heads, that I'm bisexual. In the end, what's going on in your head, doesn't apply to me, if it doesn't apply to me. Simple as that.

    But when people tell their females friends that I'm their "type" and they should try to pursue me, I get pissed off. When people tell others that I'm "bisexual," it pisses me off. Think what you want, but respect my preference and what I choose to label myself as, when speaking of it out loud. It bothers me when people try to hook me up with their female friends, or females try to pursue relationships with me because they can't come to terms with the fact that I would never, ever love a girl. And then when I tell them I really don't go that way, they have the nerve to tell me to give them a chance. Because apparently, sleeping with girls (which doesn't even AROUSE me, it's either just a way of pleasing a man I'm with, a joke to exploit how much of a slut she is, or I'm at the point where I'm so sex-deprived, I'd probably fuck my own family members) must mean I love them, or am attracted to them.

    That bothers me. What you THINK, doesn't.
     
  14. soulcompromise

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  15. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Fair enough.
    That sucks.

    Without you emphasizing this as causing trouble in real world interactions it seemed like it was just something that gets you into debates with people from time to time.

    I think what KewlDewd said is still the most applicable advice in this thread. It's great if you know who you are and you don't force yourself into any categories. But people are going to. And people are going to get you wrong.
    The best you can do is try to enlighten them.

    Are there some certain people doing this to you? Have you ever pulled them aside and ask them why they do such things, and explained it to them out of context (where they are more likely to take you seriously)?

    Other than that, there isn't too much you can do. No reason to let it get to you too bad.

    (And I hope I wasn't too infuriating =P)
     
  16. caraflower

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    I agree Charmed! Tell me - am I posting in the right place yet? ;)
    Peace :)
     
  17. LeviathanXII

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    I dont know. I understand how you feel. But I think bottom line is that if you have sex with both. Or are open to having sex with both men and women. Then that makes you bisexual. Regardless of whether you want to identify with it or not. I will not get into pan-sexuality or "hetero-flexible" or bi-curious. To be frank, I do not believe the later two exist. When you are curious about something, and then try it, you have that experience, if you still want to try it, then its no longer curiosity, its desire.

    We dont call humans zebras for the same reason. Even if we would rather be called zebras.
     
  18. Raven Eis Meister

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    I don't desire females.

    I just, point blank, feel worthless as a human being after months of not having sexual contact with someone. Anyone. One thing I always tell females before we do anything (and most of them find this extremely annoying) is that I absolutely don't want to hear their voices. Under any circumstances. Not even during orgasm. If I hear a female's voice during sex, and there isn't a man present to keep things spiced up, it's an automatic turn-off for me. I mean, turn-off as in, we'd better stop, or I might just puke on her.

    It keeps me going to fantasize about a man, or about having one present, while I'm with a female. And most of them time, unless she owns a dildo, I won't even bother. Thank goodness though, to me at least, vagina and penis taste about the same. So I don't mind giving a girl oral, as long as I don't have to, you know, see it. I don't want to feel breasts, or her hair, and I never, ever kiss them. Girl lips feel like... ugh... kinda weird. Too soft. Like worm skin.

    Using someone as a living dildo is not desire. It's desperation. Same reason I may go to bed with a guy who is absolutely disgusting, significantly older than me, or dating someone I know. Doesn't mean I like older men. Or fat men. Or men who mildly smell. It means it's the only thing around that's human, alive, and willing to put something in my vagina, then tell me I did a good job afterward.

    Also, I really don't care what "we" say. Labels are for soup cans. "We" started calling zebras, zebras, but isn't it just a word, in the end? For all we know, however zebras communicate with one another, they may call themselves what would somehow translate into "human." You're not going to change what I am with societal definitions. Again, honestly? I don't care what people THINK my sexuality is. But point blank, calling me bisexual to my face is like calling a straight man a faggot, and I'd probably punch you in the face for implying that I would ever love, or desire, a bitch.

    Think what you want. Respect my identity; which I choose.
     
  19. Raven Eis Meister

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    You weren't.

    The main person who does it to me is a girl who liked me for a few years, since we met in High School. Actually, I don't speak to her anymore, because she likes me, never came to terms with the fact that I'm straight and kept trying to convince me that I'm really bisexual, and I just couldn't take her coming on to me anymore, and being all clingy.

    Other than that, all my friends think it's funny trying to hook me up with female friends. I'm disgusted by the thought. They don't get it though.
     
  20. Raven Eis Meister

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    I'm the same way. I've actually been accused of being sexist, because I highly prefer men over women, as friends, bed partners, and just people in general.

    The last time I tried to have a relationship with a female, it ended really badly. Really badly. As in, abuse badly. See, I have mood swings, but I know myself well enough to know whether or not my emotions are rational. I also know myself well enough to know that if someone disrespects me, or just annoys me badly enough, I'm going to tell them to fuck off, and if they don't, I'm probably going to end up hitting them.

    Well, typical female; her hormones kicked in and she started getting all teary and agitated for a few days. I'm guessing she had her period. Not that I'd know. I avoided going down there. She implied that she wanted to have sex once in the three, four weeks we were together, and I shit you not; I told her I needed to get tested for herpes because I may have made out with someone who had it. A lie, a terrible one, but I never had to touch her.

    So she goes OFF on me one day, I seriously forgot what the argument was about originally. But she eventually told me that I treat her the same way I did when we were friends. She started going on and on about how she could be with a guy who really likes her and she's pushing him away to try and make things work with me. Now, I know I should've been more sensitive. I know, she was my girlfriend. But in my head, this was just some screeching little witch trying to interfere with my life. And, well, we fought. Fist fight. I grabbed her by the hair and we went at it. Didn't last long. I scratched up her face a bit. I didn't even want to fight with her honestly. I just wanted to make her shut up. It wasn't anything serious. She bit me at some point, I pushed her off of me, she got up, yelled at me that I'm "fucked up" and "fuck you" and just "fuck this" and "fuck that" and the next time I saw her was at a rave and she was dating my ex-boyfriend.

    I was wrong, yeah. I led her on, and then had the nerve to mistreat her. But seriously? I'm not cut out to be with a female. My natural reaction when a male yells at me is to try and calm him down and hear him out because he's obviously feeling strongly about something and needs to be heard. My natural reaction when a female yells at me is, "She's getting out of hand. Shut her up, and put her down." And considering I'm the only girl I know who doesn't get extremely moody and high-pitched and teary-eyed when she's upset, and who actually gets upset for REASONS, it's be stupid for me to try and date one again.

    The first time I even had sex with a female, it was because rumors had it, she was a slut. And I didn't like her. She flirted with me one day, and I flirted back. So I suggested to her that we have an orgy with a few male friends of mine. Four to be exact. She agreed to it. Couple of nights later, they took turns on her, I had sex with one of the guys, and then they watched us go at it. Mind you, her boyfriend at the time, had no idea she was bi.

    So now that was five extra people who can honestly say they fucked her, and it was easy. Humiliation successful.

    I've just never been very good with females. >_< I can deal with gay guys even. Girls? I'll be more than happy to be the only one left on the planet, and have to re-populate myself. I think I may be borderline sexist. It bothers me sometimes, but I've yet to meet a female who doesn't fit every single last stereotype.
     

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