2C-E. my notes on this unknown drug.

this is all copied from a notepad document i had wrote down about a week ago.
it has been unrevised, but im sure it should be efficient. not much is known about 2c-e so i decieded to make my own notes, and discoverys of the drug, with 1 gram of pure 99% 2c-e, tested on over 20 people, including myself (which i have done around 5 times) here are my notes to inform, let me know what you think. i am going to continue testing on this drug. one thing im not sure i added to the documentation though is that, when minimal amounts of 2c-e (about 1-3mgs) are added to marijuana buds, it produces are more indica high, very stoney, without any of the side effects, also noting that smoking 2c-e to get effects-- you need alot to smoke, to feel effects, so its pretty much waste to smoke, but from my studies, when topped on weed, the weed then looks very white crystally buds, like super dank looking, you smoke it, and get extra high, ontop of this other strange effect im not sure i noted in the following index.. when smoked and exhaled, the smoke disappears instantly, it seems.
there is minimal smell, although if you have ever smoked weed before you can note that the smell stays within a closed vicinity for around 2 hrs+. with 2c-e topped ontop of some high grade bud i got, the smoke evaporated so quickly, not only myself had also seen this. so im not trippin on this. the smell also dispersed very quickly, id say around 30 mins. so one use, i can say so far useful for 2c-e is topping minimal speckles ontop of your weed, to reduce the smell of your weed, (idk if this could also effect the ecosystem?)
i have been smoking in my parents house with it for 3 days now, without having need to open the window just because the smell will not stick but rather eliminates somehow.
as for now, here are my notes that i made about a week ago on 2c-e, enjoy.
these are all noted from facts taken and studied.

2C-E
to start off the dosage of this drug is relatively low, (5-15mg) is an average dose. (but very potent)
the phsychoactive properties have a steep incline.
meaning, you can take 10mg, and get a normal dosage, but take another, you will be feeling it
about 3x more than 10mg, so you must understand you can od, on this easily if taken too much.
(id estimate 50mg+) (one dose/capsule is 10mg)
none the less the effects of the drug are fenominal from what i can note and from others.
no bad side effects, as long as no more than 40mg are taken i would guess. (nobody has gone over that)
some get visual effects after 10-12mgs. some do not, others it takes 20mg+ to get visuals.
this can tell your immunity to the drug. as for myself, i am the same to that rule. 20mg+ i get vis.
but all and most do get closed eye visuals after 10mg.
snorting the drug (can cause stronger effects/around 2x stronger) but inflicts a notable intense pain for around
10 minutes. around 30mins-2hrs, the drug can be very overwhelming for those not prepared.
its also not something that is fun to do by yourself, unless your trying to go to disney land
without actually going there. for the first 30mins-2hrs, if you are not prepared, you may have
anxiety, upset stomache, for the duration of 30mins-2hrs of the drug (full effects last to which is around 4-6 hrs if snorted, and 6+ if ingested)[this side effect only lasts for 30mins-2hr which i have said]
you may feel cold, not only myself but others have noticed this. and these are the only noted side effects.
no headaches, but some muscle tention, and very relaxtion on the come up.
--another note to add, for my notes, and everything i am writing, this has been taken over 1 month
of being tested on over 20 people, 2 of which did not have a good time (but again they only took it one time,
they snorted it, and could not take the pain, i think sending them into a bad trip, but then again the night
before both people had (1)got really drunk the night before and (2)the other had done pain pills a strong dosage.
which could have caused the un-good time so to say because +uppers and -downers, do not mix think of your heart
trying to keep you amped but the downers trying to slow you down, not good) every other person including myself
enjoyed the experience. all can note the effects are very close to ecstasy+a kick of LSD for about the 30-2hrs.
2c-e is in the same class of drugs as MDMA (ecstasy) which is phenethylamines/entactogens, which basically
means, it causes some visuals plus empathy(happiness) towards others, and very openness. example: every time
ive done it with other people we did nothing but laugh, as if you had taken LSD or mushrooms. the euphoria is
very related, with some visuals. but as i said, no bad side effects. you can still think straight while looking
at a wall that is moving around (while smiling and giggling the whole time most likely)
no hangovers have ever been noticed. on research i can also note, there is no
neurontoxicity, which means your neurons (the cells in your brain) do not get damaged, no toxicity to them, which
almost every other drug you do will cause. it might be because it is such a small amount that is so powerful, but
so smart that it doesnt harm you, but causes such effects as lsd+mdma. the such small amount (10mg/a dose) looks
like a little pile of dust about the size of the tip of a key -> half a cm. surely your 1000000x larger liver and
kidneys can filter this tiny amount without harm, but the chemicals will still enter your blood stream through
the kidneys. everyone that has tried it has had fun. a very exclusive drug, nobody has said bad things about it
(except for the pain while snorting it, but even after snorting it, you can feel the effects within 10 mins, if
ingested it takes around 45mins) some have said, you snort it, then after the pain is gone, you will just space
it out and forget about it, and then notice. your whole word has changed. brighter lights. it makes your hands
sweaty like MDMA. but does not give you jaw tention like other kinds of uppers. there is no laws on the drug
currently yet, notibely because there has been no recorded deaths from the drug (like i was saying no toxicity)
so the DEA has no concern about it.
information on visuals:
very wave like visuals
brighter colors, and the color black will sometimes stick out.
closed eye visuals are very mathmatical and symetrical.
~you will never FREAK OUT on this drug, like lsd or mushrooms may cause, as i have said many times, it allows
you to still think straight, while experiencing a phsychedelic experience, but mainly a very happy enjoyful
experience without hangovers. but may be too powerful or overwhelming for the consumer for a while, but you will
get over it eventually. you may still eat, and also sleep on this drug, you may also do other drugs, ontop
of this drug, and you will be fine (mainly because some drugs will overpower it, even though it seems like this
drug is more powerful than others, very confusing, cant figure this all out yet, but very true, tested, and proven
a fact.)
the taste is horrible. also to note this drug was made by Alexander Shulgin (a chemist in the US that also made
ecstasy, and re-explored it into the USA which caused the uprise and increase in popularity of it 2c-e for some
reason has been unexplored, because of the other access to drugs, people want what the "hip/hit" drug, and to
follow the crew, and to fit in. this drug is more of exploration, and some have noted some very positive life
changing experiences, including myself which have made me, more positive, without the drug, just as ecstasy
did for me long ago)
there is a family of drugs called the 2c-family
starting with 2c-b (which is illegal, and also 2c-t-7 which is the only other that is illegal)
it goes from
2c-b all the way to 2c-i, then after jumps to 2c-m and 2c-t.
they are all closely related except for the the last letter which you can see of the chemical makeup
is different, which all give a little different effect. some of the 2c-family can be very unpleasant.
but as noted in PiHKAL, which is a book of alexander shulgins meaning "phenethylamines i have known and loved"
there are i think around 100 chemicals of phenethylamines he made, including ecstasy, and 2c-e and many others.
of all of them, there was a "magical half dozen" where 2c-e and MDMA were one of them. because of the
positive effects they could have on society. the man was not crazy, and had a commercial lab, which later got
raided and his liscense for chemistry got removed, because of him releasing his book PiHKAL which had all of the
chemicals he made, with the synthesis instructions for each chemical. which is basically a cook book, for mind
altering shit (which for some reason our dumbass gov. still allows it to be sold, pry for the tax money)
later, this drug got picked up on by commercial labs again, and they began making it, because there are no laws
on the drug yet, so it may be sold (but not for human consumption, but wtf USA, you really think,, uhg i wont
even finish im sure you know what im gunna say)
again heres a quick list of positive effects
positive life changing experiences (which you may note to yourself make you a better person in society)
happiness
openness for others
some closed and open eye visuals
increased energy
increased alertness
increased preceptiveness (you may be able to see farther, sharper more precise eyesight)
increased auditory (you may be able to hear the slightest things, like a pin falling out of glasses and hitting
the floor, and you hearing the tiny ding)
pupils will become big, some may not become soo big.
negative effects:
sweaty palms
sometimes may get shakey (mainly when snorted i think)
anxiety
feeling cold, then hot, or back in forth or one or the other, depends on YOU.
upset stomache on the come-up of the drug, may occur.
id also reccomend to take the drug first, then do other drugs(drink or whatever)
as it may mess with the effects of what happens to you, your mood really effects the drug.
drugs so far noted ok to be mixed with:
weed, cigs, alcohol, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms (these are the only noted to be tested, still no negative effects)
our government is stupid, what i think, but something to investigate for the time being, as shulgin noted in his
book QUOTE: "a worth-while material"

 

i can generally agree with your statements, but NOT smoking 2ce. probably not a good idea. also i don't think there is such a thing as 2c-m. that name would actually make since for 2c-d since it has a methyl group, but i'm not sure why it's named 2c-d...

anyways, 2ce is pretty well know 'round these parts. you got a lot to learn, n00b

 

I have to say.... you don't seem to have done very much reading, or really have any clue about the amount of work, both theorhetical chemical work and in practice, that has been done on this... and as for cataloging the effects, there's places like erowid, and a huge number of people in places like this who have done lots of guinea-pigging.

Just saying. It's cool that you're trying to catalog this, keep it up. But lots of us are.


*edit* porky, around here there's "2c-M", which is a marketing name for pre-dosed and mixed MDMA and 2cb in a gel cap, if the same is true other places, this could have confused him.

 

erowid pretty much has your list, but you did a pretty good job at capturing the effects... Only some visuals though? You should try 25-30mg, the visuals will be pretty engulfing.. snorted even moreso...

 

i have dosed between 12 and 20 mg ORALLY, and prefer 17-20 mg. i plan on trying 25 mg though. i've taken it about 20 times in two years.

do you have experience with any other 2cx, brennecke?

 

I have definitely seen blackness in the visuals, almost like the fabric of reality being torn away. One unique characteristic of 2ce is the randomness to the visuals. When I stare into something, things like strange objects, living things, strange settings, and very odd images appear; more than simply patterns and colors (such as purple pitchforks rising everywhere with eyes, wtf?) I really like this quality of 2ce.

I should also add that weed is a necessity after the come up to fully enjoy the visuals. While on most tryptamines weed can clutter the headspace, on the 2c's weed has always been the perfect compliment-especially 2ce.

People hear have taken doses over 70mg and I believe I've heard of 100mg+ doses being survived but don't take my word on that. It's definitely safe over 50mg, plenty of people (myself included) have gone over that "limit".

You can freak out on pretty much any psychedelic given the setting, and 2ce is if anything to be of as much concern as LSD.

But I agree, 2ce is something special amongst RCs.

 

I tried but can not find the motivation to read that horrible looking post haha. Clean it up some! Anyways, 2c-e is also the psych I know the best, glad you like it. Me and 60mg, we're real tight.

 

Any long term reports on it about health?

Any problem on the physical end at high doses?

For me I just missed the euphoric-push that lucy or mushie present. But still not out of the question... he he. Mighta been s&s

 

I took 52 mgs the day you posted this by myself at a park and am still here nor did I even puke or have severe nausea. I would not reccomend such a dose for novice psychedelic users but it was manageable. The effects were not very similar to MDMA at all it was pretty much strictly LSD like. Feelings are enhanced on this compound but I would not classify it as an entactogen.

I didn't bother to read the second half, there is a report of up to 200 mgs taken and no recorded overdose fatalities with 2ce that I'm aware of.

 

I expect he feared OD because of the panic that fighting psychedelics can bring. You can remain in control, if you're not a control freak, if that makes sense. You have to be the captain, playing with the engine room signal, not the guy stoking the boilers, because while he's directly controling things he has NO control, really. Indirectly guide the big picture.

One of the best life lessons I've ever learned, I learned from Grand Theft Auto: San andreas. The truth says "fight the ocean and you will drown". Gotta swim with it.

 

yea, its not that unknown... just sayin...