Anonymous Leaks Incriminating Bank of America Emails

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  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Anonymous has released a series of emails from a former Bank of America employee about "forced insurance placement" where an insurance policy is automatically taken out for a home without a homeowner's knowledge and he is charged exorbitant fees and rates by the company. It turns out Bank of America and other banks have been ripping off homeowners and car buyers with this unsavory tactic.

    Let's hope this encourages Wikileaks to release their info on Bank of America...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/14/bank-of-america-anonymous-leak-mortgage_n_835220.html
     
  2. stinkfoot

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    Let's hope that this type of information fans some militant outrage with the working class... just another way that the puppet masters are ripping off the public with government approval. This information should be mailed to every household in Amerikkka.
     
  3. broony

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    I can't recall a single time where I heard anything good about Bank of America. It amazes me how many people continue to support something they refuse to believe to be corrupt. Every bank giant right now is doing everything they can to fuck over the people. Why doesn't anyone take everything they hopefully own out of the bank and let the company collapse onto itself?
     
  4. stinkfoot

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    Yes.

    I'll up the ante... it would be nice to see regular folks return to a barter style economy and let the currency, which effectively doubles as a tool of manipulation/domination, stagnate... not circulate. Let the banks collapse, let the global corporations follow suit.
     
  5. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    It would never work. Too big of a population with far too much specialized labor. Have to have some medium of exchange. What if I don't want or need what you have to barter? ;)
     
  6. stinkfoot

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    Time and labor are also commodities- and if someone is so unskilled as to have nothing to offer into a barter system as a substitute currency then there's motivation to pick up a skill. Inconvenience can be seen as a challenge- and people in general tend to stagnate without the occasional push outside their comfort zones.
     
  7. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    The idea is that what you do need will have to come from someone. Maybe not stinkfoot, or the guy down the road, but you have needs that will have to be met by someone.

    If people didn't use banks it would send a big message. I don't know about the US, but in Canada a bank will cash your cheques, without having to open an account with them, as long as you have sufficient id. No charge.

    Cash your cheques and keep your money in your house, fuck the banks. Let them starve.
     
  8. thedope

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    The huge human population is living on borrowed time. I don't think we are going to be able to use current paradigms going forward. Population crash is likely to be one practical outcome of current trends.
     
  9. stinkfoot

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    Many banks here in the US won't give you the time of day if you do not have an account with them- and check cashing itself is being promoted by Walmart as a service they are offering to render for the "bargain" price of $1 per check- promoted a slick "magic tricks" style ad that infuriates me... another example of what strikes me as a predatory corporate mentality toward the labor livestock money farm that the oligarchs seem to regard the working class.
     
  10. thedope

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    Banks here are not so user friendly. You are more likely to get some checks cashed at a grocery store than at a bank.

    I think a big mistake is happening as far as believing things are getting back to normal so to speak. Shortly, the financial institutions and corporations will have taken in profits, all of the money advanced to bail the system out. They are still going to fail. Look at the stock market rebound and you can see the bubble,
    it does not reflect conditions on the ground.
     
  11. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    That's unfortunate, I didn't know that, though I should have figured. It would seem to me then that the only real way to break free from the self imposed slavery of the pursuit of money and things would be to attribute no real value to money or things.

    Not to get off subject, but last night I watched a movie about the life of David Suzuki. He compared the way we treat the economy with the way people used to treat the idea of dragons and gods, offering sacrifices and being afraid when they get pissed off with us. When the economy is "upset" we all suffer, yet the economy isn't even a real thing. We all suffer because we're led by a believe in a system that is man made.
     
  12. stinkfoot

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    We're also led to believe that this economy is there to serve our needs and help us but in practice it all too often is used by those who understand the legal tricks to commit legally sanctioned larceny- such as detailed in the leaks. Part of the potential danger here is treating this as an isolated case when it's a systemic and predatory attitude toward a population that is not seen as really being people but animals; livestock.
     
  13. Meliai

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    exactly. Western economics blows my mind because there is nothing tangible about it. The wealthiest have learned to manipulate the system in order to make money that comes from seemingly nowhere. It seems as if our economic system was designed specifically to benefit the wealthiest and keep the poor in indentured servitude to the people writing their checks.
     
  14. LeviathanXII

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    Your right, time and labor are also commodities. But who would "enlist" so many people, because a grocer for example cannot possibly require everyone in his area to work for him in return for the amount of groceries they would need to survive and support their family. Solution -> Enlist a bunch of people with the appropriate skills, and pay them with some sort of medium to which they can obtain other things they may need. If only we had some sort of medium that could accommodate this need, and accommodate it on a global level... hmmm, if only...

    Systems are not foolproof, we have obviously seen this in the last 10 years, but they are also not completely evil and out to get everyone, if they were giving us nothing, we would not pay. Sure you do not like the way things currently are, but the solution is not reverting back to the stone age. I am all for bartering when I can, but within reason. There is a REASON we stopped bartering a long time ago, and you are naive if you think we only stopped bartering to benefit the richest people.
     
  15. Logan 5

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    I can't wait until they disclose the stuff they have on Wells Fargo.
     
  16. Meliai

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    Has anyone heard of the Venus Project? Its a great idea on paper; designed to move us away from our monetary system but advance civilization into a technology and resource based society instead of regress into something barter based.

    I think its much like the Communist Manifesto; great on paper but in reality it would more than likely fail.

    You guys might be interested in taking a look

    http://www.thevenusproject.com/
     
  17. broony

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    Glad you brought that up. The man (I forget his nam) is now 94. He seems very healthy and is super intelligent. He talks a lot about the project in the 2nd and 3rd Zietgiest films.
     
  18. lunarverse

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    During the American civil war and both World Wars the same small group of rich white men funded all sides, fighting against each other. The group was mostly started by the Rothschild family. Way back a man whose father was a goldsmith changed his last name to Rothschild (German for Red Sheild).

    Rothschild had numerous sons who all got into banking. The family opened up numerous banks, with numerous interests rates, yet they were all owned by the same man/family. In November of 1910 seven men representing some of the wealthiest families/companies (J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, Rothschild) attended a secret meeting on Jekyll Island in Georgia. They schemed to open a bank called the Federal Reserve. These companies would use their collective trillions to lend to militaries, government agencies, corporations, etc. all with interest rates. Whereas before this group money was printed by the government, money was now being printed by the Federal Reserve. The name was given to trick people into thinking it was a government agency when the reality is that it has nothing to do with the government. Before the Federal Reserve every dollar was backed by golded and it was actually printed on the bills that they were good to be cashed in for gold at any bank, any time.

    The Federal Reserve started printing money (not backed by gold, therefore worthless) and lending it out to the government, to other banks, to corporations. Technically the money was completely worthless because it's simply printed as needed. The government borrows money from the federal reserve and then owes interest on that money. Guess how they pay that interest......................(drum roll).....................................................


    They make you pay for it by charging you taxes.

    The government borrows money to give to the military, CIA, FBI, etc. The military, CIA, FBI, etc. take that money and invest it in the interests of those agencies. They now have to work that money off so the government will give them more and to make it up to the government who lent them the money.

    How can the military make money for the government? How about by going to war? How about by killing innocent people for oil? Oil is worth money. How can the FBI and CIA work off all that money? How about by busting drug growers so they'll be put in prison and earn money for the corporations who owe money to the banks, who owe money to the Federal Reserve?

    The Federal Reserve prints paper money that is completely and wholly worthless. That money is borrowed by corporations, banks, and governement. They owe that money back, plus interest. The government charges you taxes to help pay that money off. The banks charge you fees for using their accounts and services, and corporations simply take your money by selling you useless shit that you don't need. Then they take all that money from you and me and everyone else, they all pay it back to the Federal Reserve who takes that money and piles it all in giant rooms with their other Quadrillions of dollars while they laugh their asses off all the way to the bank......Wait a minute, they own the banks...............


    Of the men that met at Jekyll Island back in 1910, they collectively represented one quarter of the planets wealth. This type of banking has gone on before. Just search for info on President Andrew Jackson and the Second Bank of the United States 1932. There's so many more disturbing things that have gone on, mostly in politics and the militaries, one could go on forever about it.

    Anyways, the money does literally come out of nowhere. When the government, banks, or corporations need it, the Federal Reserve prints some off to give them (at no cost to the Federal Reserve). The money is charged at the dollar value as printed on it, but in reality it has no value whatsoever.
     
  19. thedope

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    Venus project has some real conceptual flaws. For one the conceived cities are far too large. They talk about doing a global survey of resources to identify the carrying capacity as far as human population , yet that survey would be a meaningless effort if you have not determined the basic minimum requirement for an individual in terms of space and capacity of the local environment to recycle waste. Instead of tooling for huge cities we should automate the production of small hermetic units that had their own energy production features. Composting toilets and hydroponic gardens.

    Further there is no real method for changing one system into another on the fly.
    A viable way to institute a new paradigm would be to set a reserve aside and insulate it from the current system. In other words create an island for the proliferation of new species, so to speak. If you can establish a small independent system then you can begin to annex other areas from there.
     
  20. LeviathanXII

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    Disgusting eh, the wealthiest people in the world found a way to sell paper and ink to the government. I bet it was a huge joke "Hey Rockefeller, I bet you 10 grand that I can take these people, and sell them money" "Your crazy JP your crazy man!"

    6 Months later

    "Damn Rockefeller, those people are idiots..."
    "And they keep asking for money too!"

    And then they liquefied their money and swam in it.

    In seriousness though...

    Governments needs to realize that if they do not have the funds for a certain endeavor, then they should leave it alone until they do, you can not buy something that you cannot afford. Children know this, but does your government? America seems forever stuck in the belief that living beyond your means is normal.
     
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