So how do you explain this?

Maybe that is what some people consider him to be. The fact is, 99% of everything he presents is backed up with proof from mainstream and independent news sources. He has also interviewed Stanley Hilton on his radio show several times.

The fact is, people like Alex Jones cover things you're NOT going to hear in the mainstream media. Just because you're not hearing about it on CNN and FOX News, doesn't make it a conspiracy theory.

 

George Noorey interviews time travelers on coast to coast am, but that doesn't help the validity of theories they present.

 

I will agree with you there. That's why I don't believe in time travel.

I am an avid listener of George Noory and Coast to Coast myself. He has a lot of questionable, whacky people on his show from time to time, as well as a lot of reputable people as well. The validity of the reputable people should not be taken into question just because of some of the other people he has on his show.

The great thing about Coast to Coast is that it gives people a forum to discuss things you normally don't hear about on the radio and on the TV. Some of it is bizarre, while some of it is very grounded.

It depends on the topic being covered on any given night.

 

im acctually listening to a recap right now. Your right there are some good people on there. I can always tell that george is a good person, bes usually pretty nuetral too. Thats prolly why I like him. If i were him I would be shooting down the occasional nutcase he has on there.

Not too long ago on there I heard alex jones on C2C, and he was very interesting. His site is awsome. His links are reputable. But sometimes just like coast to coast he gets the occasional story that just doesnt seem right. I like alex jones also because hes impartial, and just says "here is the sources, take from it what you can." Thats all I feel that he got from the lawsuit also. It just seems like too many people today throw a lawsuit out for anything.

Just look at it this way. Say you lost a loved one years ago, and a man approaches you and says, "I think I have know why your loved one died, im going to try to find out, and if im right you will get lots of money." I honestly would take the persons offer. I dont care if its Johnney Cochran asking me this.

Im not dismissing anything as false right now. I just think people need to stop focusing on one thing, (SEPT 11th) and look at the full spectrum of everything that is going on.

 

How? That is just false. I think people who don't question the events of 9/11 are disgracing the victims! Whenever I think about how our government ended people's lives for their benefit, it makes me heartsick and troubled. It's almost unbearable. I didn't even know any of the victims or victim's families. For us to overlook the glaring inconsistencies and powerful evidence that suggests fraud, is to almost condone it. And allow it to happen again. I can't stand that thought myself.

 

This is a conspiracy theory. It is a theory that the government conspired to attack our country while blaming foreign terrorists. You may not like it to be called a conspiracy theory, but that makes no difference.


All that is required is infinite skepticism of the standard version of events ("where are the signed affadavits that anyone say the plane hit the Pentagon", therefore nobody saw it) and infinite faith in any alternative theory ("some anonymous people, quoted by anonymous websites, said they might have seen something which might have had a pod underneath, therefore the most likely explanation was a giant flying remote controlled mossad piloted missile firing drone").

If the smoke looks funny to internet conspiracy theorists, we have massive doubts, if the conspiracy theory requires airplanes full of passengers and crew to vanish from the air with no trace ever to be recovered, we still consider it plausible.

It also requires belief that thousands of people at the CIA, the FBI, FAA, the airlines, the police, the news media, the military, the NSA, the rescue workers, and all the witnesses orchestrated a perfect conspiracy when we can't even keep mistreatment of prisoners at Abu Gharib secret. Yet conspiracy theorists call themselves "skeptics".

This thread is a testament to how gullible people can be.

 

User that remains anonymous pm'd me and wanted me to post this for him/her

 

What about the massive indoctrination of people who are mind slaves of media/societal conditioned group-think and the herd mentality, as you seem to be afflicted with yourself? Talk about group dynamic!

And if you're going to mention an "atmosphere of paranoia," why don't you talk about the "atmosphere of paranoia" our government instills on its own people on a daily basis?

You hypocrite.

Just because you have no real retort to the evidence that has been presented, doesn't mean you have to start demeaning people you don't know and have never met. How would you know who is schizoid and who isn't? Are you a shrink? You seem to be pretty full of shit, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that turned out to be true.

I don't believe anything unless it can be backed up with proof, whether the proof comes in the forum of mainstream news articles, televised news reports, investigative reports, declassified documents, insider testimonial, and physical or photographed evidence.

I am not into conspiracy theory, I am into conspiracy FACT!

As far as your claim about them making money by instilling fear, that sounds an awful lot like the current administration. Wasn't it Cheney who said weeks prior to the election that if Bush isn't re-elected, a major city might be attacked with a nuke?

The idea that people who are in seek of the truth are anti-semitic is frankly beyond blasphemous. It proves that you have nothing to stand on, so you resort to making a totally nonsense claim, to divert attention away from your lack of substance and wit.

This is not about a person's faith or ethnicity, but their actions.

Why do you say that? Did they ever imply that only Jewish people are to blame?

You DO hear a lot in the foreign media that you don't hear in the American media. An example would be the French news source which published a report about bin Laden being treated at an American Army hospital in Dubai, in the summer of 2001, where he met with a CIA agent.

Of course most of the foreign mainstream media is owned and controlled by the same group of people as well, especially the more notable ones, like BBC.

And also keep in mind that mainstream news sources and publications report only news from OFFICIAL SOURCES -- ie: government sources.

It's all about symbolism... the global-elite are obsessed with symbolism. It instilled the idea in people that we were attacked on both ends of the power structure -- financially and militarily.

 

this is some crazy stuff


well if this is all true then its pretty apparent the media is controlled by government, only in some ways,

 

LOL. yep, we're all being brainwashed here at hipforums..... Once I started coming here I became infected with the "conspiracy theorist" sickness and now I'm spreading it to everyone I know. Pretty soon we'll ALL be raving mad!!!
lol. Go away.

Really? Cool! I had to look it up to find out the specifics, and it turns out it's not an insult like I'm sure you meant it to be!! A person who doesn't like being around people and doesn't need attention or acceptance, ...wouldn't the world be better if more people were like this? I should say so! I enjoy people, but I think loners are cool and I certainly dislike a good deal of people, especially Americans. Also, why are you not naming names? Especially yours? It seems you've been stalking the forums for awhile...creepy.

Do you have any response to the points in the original post? I think we'd all be interested. I can't believe you wasted your time writing this worthless "description".

Oh geez, you got us there. Now, that's what I call a theory.
It is much easier to coordinate an event in your own country than one in a sovereign nation.

uh, uh... I hope like you never like get your uh, 100 posts, because umm.. uh, you're an, uh, idiot.

 

I wish dude would get 100 posts, because im not gonna pass on any more messages, or argue for anyone.

 

Someone sent me this link, check it out

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

 

Did you see the 757? I didnt see the 757? That is some interesting stuff, thanx.
I know though that at 350 miles per hour, aluminum shells virtually atomize on impact.

http://gprime.net/video.php/planevsconcretewall

The lack of jets in the air from Andrews, 12 miles away, I believe....
that is kinda odd.

 

You know it is a simple fact that the government can use remote controls to crash any plane anytime into the ocean...

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

"According to the conspiracy theorists, the Bush administration/CIA was capable to coordinate and serve us a giant media spectacle on 9/11, yet they can’t pull some WMD or any other evidences out of their sleeves, to justify the invasion of Iraq??"

Do you ever think that Iraq was made to be a long, drawn out war, which would not end for a long time....making billions for halliburton and the carlyle group, while keeping a war on to supress civil liberties at home? The government is smarter than you think, they wouldn't go into a war thinking it would take a short time and end up taking forever, they know what they are doing....

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

And, with NO wmd, they have all the protestors at home targeting Iraq, instead of investigating into Afghanistan, the pipeline, 9/11, etc.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

It was even planned as a tentative measure to start a war with Cuba, make up a plane to look like a known airliner, make a fictitious passenger list, fly it remote control over Cuba and detonate it........

 

I've been to that link before. It doesn't convince me in the very least, because I can refute every claim that Snopes makes.

For one, they claim that the 757 first hit the ground before crashing into the Pentagon. Well, if this is the case, how come there is no damage to the Pentagon lawn? And how come the plane still had a velocity needed to penetrate as many rings of steel-reinforced concrete walls as it did, leaving this hole:



Can a Boeing 757 pass through multiple steel-reinforced walls to do this? And if the plane hit at a 45 degree angle, wouldn't the hole be oval instead of round?

More pictures:



Do you see any plane wreckage in these pictures, or a hole that is big enough to swallow an entire 757?





Is this an engine rotor...... from a Boeing 757??


Boeing 757 engine:


Missile engine:

 

Good job, providing evidence that cannot be refuted. (Unless of course, someone says "What? That's communist propaganda! How could America ever do something like that?")

 

Yea, exactly man. It's almost like our so called 'commanders' in Iraq are TRYING to incite more insurgents and rebels and such, by killing innocent people without target.