Erowid Methamphetamine

I know most people in the world, including this "free minded site", think meth is the devils drugs and only retards use it, etc.

But try to be as none judgmental as possible. Try to view all drugs like I do, tools that if used correctly can accomplish great things. I mean, some doctors agreed with me to put it on schedule 2...

Anyways, why are all the reports on Erowid negative about meth? Even the "mystical experiences", "glowing experiences", and "health benefits" sections.

I.E. from health benefits:
" I have been getting better, every relapse that I have I am able to go longer without doing it because I see the side effects. I no longer have clear skin, and I have scars from picking at pimples that didn't need to be picked, all over my arm and acne on my face. Its a horrible feeling to go around with scars and cuts on your face and arm and not feel guilty because I am doing this to myself. I have to tell you how hard it is to stop for even three weekends, and all that is going thru my mind is I ate so much recently how am I going to lose it without coming back to the same wrong path. Its a struggle and a fight that I am still dealing with tody. As much as I want to stop, I still crave how the first few bumps made me feel. That will never happen. "

The stigma and taboo around meth is so strong its crazy. You think it seeped into our loved site, Erowid? They seem to be the most non-biased site I have ever seen except for this.

What do you think of meth? How do you feel about it?

 

I think it can be a useful drug if used in very small quantities and not used on a daily basis. And is 100% pure pharmaceutical grade amphetamine. But you dont see that happening too often because of its addictive potential. It has ruined some of my friends lives and they still continue to use it. I personally dont like messing with it. Ive done it a handful of times but I know how I was with cocaine so I stay away from uppers all together now. I pretty much stay away from any non-hallucinogenic drugs anymore.

 

my shit is bunk bro..

 

i have probably bought into a lot of the propaganda surrounding meth, so i think it's nasty. i've never seen it or tried it.

 

This is so contradictory to the way you think.The way we all believe we think. How are you so open minded about LSD,DPT, etc. But not other drugs? This is what confuses me the most.

I don't want to hear the, "meth messes up peoples lives" stuff either. Because any drug used the wrong way can mess up lives. (mind you, not quite as bad as meth. But some are damn close. Just needs to be used right like every drug)

 

Haven't tried it as it's not used in the UK.

really want to though. But just like every drug i think the same as you codmouse, they can all be used safely and correctly.

I have no problem with Meth/Heroin etc

 

I know quite a few people who have tried it and the common consensus seems to be that it is a really horrible drug. Paranoia, anger, feeling ill, restlessness, and a few guys I know reported pretty much no nice effects.

Never dabbled myself, and have no desire to.. I've tried plenty of stimulants in my time and they never really did it for me. I'm sure some people can do meth and have a great time without negative impact on their lives, but I have a feeling those people are few and far between.

And it's physically devastating, like all stimulants.

 

i actually find methampehtamien to be the most smoothest, euphoric, and safest stimulant out of all of them - that being in the short term of course.

no crash, great energetic high, no body stimulation, ego boost for hours on end..

meth is definitely the most mis represented drug EVER. whenever on meth I feel more sober than normal, and i find it easier to act sober on meth than it is to act sober WHILE sober.

 

i was kind of admitting my flaw when i said i bought into the propaganda. but i think meth is much easier to "use the wrong way" than LSD, and is much more detrimental when it is abused. i don't look favorably on meth, heroin, or crack (cocaine), but i try not to judge people that use them. my best friend has heroin, but only once, he's not a junkie or anything. i've tried coke, but i think it's a "bad" drug

 

I think meth is crap, like mdpv it's way too fiendish for me to recommend it to anyone in good conscience or for me to really desire to do anymore. It's fairly euphoric but there is nothing about it that really sets the experience apart, I hear it's a great sex drug but I've heard Mdpv is as well and MDPV made me much much hornier than Meth did. Meth has a bit more of a kick to it than MDPV but the high of MDPV is more interesting to me.

Also Keep in mind I didn't smoke or inject MDPV so it may have just as much a kick with those ROA's. I saw a cashed meth pipe before I had ever seen Marijuana so I don't think propaganda has been much of an influence on me about this drug.

 

I've seen what meth can do to people, firsthand. I've lost many friends to meth addiction and I've even seen meth addicts forcing their children to steal and rob just to support their(the parents') habit, then sharing the meth with their kids. It's fukt.

That being said, there are exceptions and I'm sure some people can use it responsibly. It's definitely not for me though. I'd smoke crack before I'd smoke meth, and I have no interest in smoking crack. lol

 

Drugs that hold up ego are the most dangerous kind.

 

shit, I have friends whom have never said one bad thing about meth... They have never smoked it but they have went long periods of time snorting it. If I was around it then of course I would give it a try. I don't look at meth any worse than I do any other drug. It gets you high and to be quite honest with you, that is what I'm looking for. I love speed and everything about it. I don't even mind the depression that follows it. It can truly ruin peoples lives, if they let it.

 

Just my opinion and experience, but I agree with alot said here. I've been around a few years longer than some, and seen a few things...

And best of all...

All that said, I've done it several times (back in the day) It wasn't for me but neither was coke, snorted or freebased. You're absolutely right it is a slippery slope to generalize nearly anything. But I've seen very little good come of meth compared to the great amount of bad I've personally witnessed firsthand.
I don't think Erowid is the be all, end all. But if a source as "non biased" (your words) as that still has very little good to say about it, I'd say there's a pattern here, much more than good ol government propaganda.

 

I know pork, my message was pointed more towards everyone reading I guess. Its just kinda frustrating.


And for all the people saying that they don't use it because they "see what it does" or "have read about stories"; My very own favorite person in the world was my mom. At least after my sister abandoned me (she kinda raised me). My mom was just one of those people that makes everyone in the room look at her and start to become happy. Just because of her energy and outlook on life.

Anyways, she did meth for a bit and went crazy as hell. Shaved her beautiful long hair; got sores all over her body, hitch hiked from Indiana to Washington to climb mt. Rainier to talk to god about the messiah, my 5 y/o nephew; and slept under a car in a mcdonalds parking lot after peeing on the tire because she though it would repel the underground lizard people, which my dad was the leader of. There is a bunch of other shit, but you get the point.

I still don't think meth is bad, I think she was dumb for the way she used it. The wrong way. I do believe that it is one of only a few drugs that can be abused for weeks and cause you to not sleep or eat, which is where most of its bad effects come from. See sleep deprivation and malnutrition

To me, no drug is bad. You guys don't view cyanide as bad because people don't abuse it. Yet there are uses for it. Same with meth. No drug is good or bad, they are just drugs. And since I know you guys have already thought, "But cyanide doesn't have addiction potential like meth"; That is a personal problem, it has nothing to do with meth. I personally don't find any drug so addictive that I am scared of it. If you are weak minded, then playing with your mind might not be the best thing to do.

 

I can agree with this. Like I said, any drug can be used responsibly, but some people can't use certain drugs responsibly and it's easy for the use of those drugs to get out of hand without realizing it until it's too late, just like me and xanax. Certain people just shouldn't use certain drugs.

 

This has become my motto

 

Good stuff. And this...

 

i see it equiviliant to a fat person blaming food as being "evil" or "bad" for making them overweight... when really it's always the individuals fault.

that being said I find meth to be also one of the most useful beneficial drugs... makes you so damn motivated, happy, sociable, productive.

I see no reason why someone who uses meth responsibly should be discriminated against anymore than someone who takes prescribed amphetamine for ADD - in fact meth would be 100x more useful as an ADHD med than adderall or ritalin; no side effects, very long, and of course much more clarity.

 

i've seen it made, i wont put that into my body...... i stay away from unnatural drugs.. mind codiene once in a while but thats for legitimate back pain...