Erowid Methamphetamine

Codeine is natural.

 

So is meth

 

not the meth you smoke/rail. and probably not the codeine in a tylenol 3

 

Actually, I think the codeine is usually from a natural source. But either way, if you get crystal meth, its usually quite pure.

One chemical is the same as another. In fact the chemicals used in a lab are usually considerably more dangerous and bad for you than what clandestine chemists use. Either way, if the process is done carefully, you get it pretty damn pure.

 

I think meth is a drug that has a huge spectrum, with one extreme being quite extreme indeed, and that extreme being the one that most people are familiar with through erowid. I find that there is very little info on oral use of meth on erowid, which I imagine is nothing near as harsh as other methods of ingestion.

I use meth orally maybe bi weekly, usually in combination with studying... not even that I need it to study but that's how I enjoy it. Socially it's a bit too much of a overload for me, as I usually regret the over energetic/talkative self I become. But another user mentioned the positives.... including NO crash and sustained ego boost...

 

Meth is a neurotoxic stimulant that burns out your brain without any real benefits, and keeps you coming back for more.

Never taken it, but as I understand it it's much too speedy to actually increase productivity, unless you're trying to wage a blitzkrieg. It's awesome for blitzkriegs, though.

For productivity, there's less neurotoxic things, like standard amphetamine, that get you in a happy hyper state where you can concentrate, and if you use them carefully, won't destroy your life. D-amphetamine won't make you pick half your skin off, it won't make you lose your fucking ability to function in society, it won't make you pawn everything you own and some things you don't.

For meaningful effects, there's lots of awesome amphetamines from MDxx to DOx to 2cX.

There's just no good reason to take meth, unless you're 500lb's, participating in a blitzkrieg, or both.

I say blitzkrieg a lot for a reason. It didn't happen to be THE nazi drug because they flipped a coin and shrooms lost, it's because it's nasty shit that makes you violent, obsessive, and hold no boundaries.

 

that is NOT true at ALL.

The more pure, the better/safer. Lab chemicals kick the SHIT out of hardware store shit poured through a coffee filter.

Codeine is usually from poppies, yes.

Meth is NOT from ephedra, even if the ephedrine it's made from is. There's nothing in nature with more than miniature traces of meth, if even that. Generally I think all ephedra even has in TRACE amounts is AMPHETAMINE, not the same thing as METHAMPHETAMINE.

Erowid is beyond neutral, it leans towards drug use. If it talks down meth, it's for a reason. Chemicals are not themselves inharently evil or wrong, but there's still some that do horrible things to nearly everyone who uses them.

 

In purity, reagent grade is obviously going to beat hardware stuff... I didn't even say that. I said both chemicals have the same properties and carry out the same reaction. Even if you make it with these chemicals though, once you get to the purifying steps its up to how well you do it. Then the last step, crystallization is almost guaranteed to to yield a very pure product. Otherwise It wouldn't be able to become crystal. I've read this in quite a few places and I know chemists use recrystallization as a technique to purify.

Hopefully they are using vacuum filtration systems instead of coffee filters... We are talking about the people that produce it in large quantities, not the crack head kid down the street that makes it for himself and friends.

I also didn't call ephedrine, psuedoephedrine, or p2p methamphetamine. Amphetamine obviously lacks the methyl group which makes it more fat soluble and harder to metabolize.

And, it was ALL true COMPLETELY

EDIT As for benefits, meth has helped me learn stuff better than any other drug I have ever used. It is also a great tool to get things done.

 

Crystals make it harder to cut. They don't prove purity to ANY safe level, you can crystalize dirty shit that will strait up kill you.

If you recrystalize something, it means it was already in crystals, and you used the proper solvent to remove more of the thing you want and less of the shit you don't want, and then recrystalized. It can be dirty shit and make crystals just fine.

 

My older bro used to sell a grip. He started shooting in the toes, then the neck as it got more serious. Just from personal experience seeing how it not only affected our family but him as well. He's been straight sober besides marijuana usage. He uses herb as a vice and is in a healthy state of mind, going to school, working, being positive, ect. Once your in that deep. Especially for ten solid years. He said he still craves it to this day. I'm just thankful to have my older brother back. He's gotten lucky. So soley for that example alone. That's been always a personal reason never to touch it.

 

i think alot of you are forgetting to credit meth with allowing us to keep our current freedom we have today... how you may ask?

Hitler was a meth addict and had his own physician shoot him up everyday. ever wonder why he started making such stupid decisions to do things like turning against russia while still fighting britain?

I would conclude that if IT WAS NOT FOR METHAMPHETAMINE, WE WOULD HAVE LOST WWII... you have meth to thank for your freedom. start showing it the credit it deserves

 

Yeah, but we never would have fought it if it wasn't for his troops taking assloads of it. It's what allowed them to function in the way they did.

The german army was basically a bunch of kids in boyscout uniforms that they used meth to whip up into a white nationalist frenzy.

But neither boyscout uniforms or meth saved them from the soviet winter

 

From Erowid, the website that hates meth;

" Meth in visible crystals (rather than powder) is likely to be relatively pure as it is difficult to grow crystals from impure material."

" Larger crystals of a consistent size and color can be an indicator of higher quality."

And from reachout.com

"Crystal meth is more powerful than other forms of amphetamines. It is more pure than the powder form of methamphetamine"

Wiki

"Used to improve (obtaining very pure substance) and/or verify their purity.
Crystallization separates a product from a liquid feedstream, often in extremely pure form, by cooling the feedstream or adding precipitants which lower the solubility of the desired product so that it forms crystals.
Well formed crystals are expected to be pure because each molecule or ion must fit perfectly into the lattice as it leaves the solution. Impurities would normally not fit as well in the lattice, and thus remain in solution preferentially. Hence, molecular recognition is the principle of purification in crystallization. However, there are instances when impurities incorporate into the lattice, hence, decreasing the level of purity of the final crystal product."

And there are a million other places that I have read it. You can't get a crystal formation with stuff that isn't "pretty damn pure" like I said. Just ask pork, he is a biochemist and he went through the process of learning it in college.

I am not saying that its 100%, but its usually in the mid to high 90's.

 

I'd say its a fair guess that the shards I've been smoking the past week have been 90% pure. but after like the 5th day the magic was gone to the point where I have no temptation to take them now, rather save the rest of my stash for a few weeks to get that divine feeling those first few days.

 

Just look at the colour and texture.

Lots of shit will form a similar hard thing with the meth, a lot of what's sold as "crystal" meth is complete shit, like black/grey almost translucent shards of crap.

 

^^while that may be true, that's kinda like saying weed doesn't have much THC in it, because you could sell oregano as weed since they look alike. in other words, just because someone might sell black/grey hard stuff as methamphetamine cystals, doesn't mean that actual crystals (of meth or anything else) aren't quite pure.

 

by natural i mean it grows in the ground and you can eat it/ smoke it as is without using any chemical to change its form. ... so yeah pretty much just weed and shrooms for me i guess....

 

khat, Coca, Datura, Morning glory seeds, kratom, kava, opium. Those are all completely natural and worth the time. Well, not datura...

 

You got salvia, San pedro/peyote, morning glories and ayahuasca if you want as well.

Can even get your dope on with poppy seeds and kratom.
If you need energy munch on some khat or coca leaves.

You got choices maaaaan.

 

oh, i know about other things that are natural but i mean id just rather stick to weed/ shrooms... i've had datura and i will never touch it again. i've had salvia, and i just didn't like it. idk, theres just nothing better than mary-j. but stll..... meth is really messed up you can pretty much make it from everyday things you'd find in a kitchen/ bathroom/ pharmacy....