Pushing thoughts working but not how I intended

So for a few months I've been trying to get my boyfriend to respond to thoughts I'm sending him, and for the most part it hasn't been working. But more and more I've been noticing that it seems to work more when one of us is stressed out. When I have a negative thought, he responds to it. I can't push him pleasant happy thoughts, but negative ones just sneak out and fly to him.

Now this wouldn't be a problem if I didn't have a voice in my head that says horrible fucked up shit on a regular basis - shit I definitely don't mean, like brutal things. Basically if I let my mind wander instead of meditating and clearing my head or getting a song stuck in my head looping over and over then I start to think of twisted things like how I could hurt or fuck someone over or steal something. I would never do any of these things because I'm in control of my actions, just not my thoughts. Every time I have one of these thoughts now he immediately picks up on it and it ruins his day, I need to figure out how to control it better.

Help? I'm seriously fucking scared that now I've talked to him about what I've been trying that the flood gates are open and it's getting worse and worse

 

you are passionate and may create peace .

sometimes intense peace-making is a strategy of a bold
willfull stand and then ...surrender .
one who does this makes the peace , yet there
can be a residual (twisted) anger that lingers within
the peace-maker , this warrior of peace .

the feeling has a highly creative charge . by grace
of peace the anger does go away because , well ,
that sort of torment is only real in the movies .

 

i don't know, i don't think that really helps my problem though

 

my two cents on the subject is that you may not in fact be projecting thoughts psychically to your boyfriend.

at these moments of intense anger, it could be that your expressions can be read, or that a pause in conversation or body language are betraying your intentions. the fear that your mind can be read is then amplifying the problem.

you may want to see a psychologist, or do a meditation practice to help calm yourself.

you might want to give up on trying to send thoughts to your boyfriend

you have the ability to express what you think and feel to your boyfriend directly, which I think is probably a much healthier and more effective way to communicate with someone that you love

 

okay, well I'll make it clear then: I don't want advice from people that think I'm crazy and don't believe me. It's real. Thanks for caring though

 

the problem is not psychic communication . passion
enables it .

you are passionate . there is peace to be made .
this , too , is not a problem .

can you be an artist of peace ?

with pleasant happy thoughts ?? hahaha .
positive passion , please , even if it's crazy
about ice scream .

 

okay, i think maybe what you need to do is find the source or sources of those unpleasant thoughts because somewhere beneath the word/thought is the emotion creating it. now it could be some angst or fear or pain from your past that's twisting your mental vibration into meanness and/or since you're playing telepathy games you might be picking negative energy out of the air around you. ya gotta be really self honest about this because either way you'll have to fix it. if the twist is coming out of some past trauma then you'll have to locate the wound, forgive and heal it. if you're picking it up out of the air, out of the general irritating murmmerings of the human unconscious collective, you're gonna to have to build yourself some shields and filters and begin to discern YOUR vibrational signiture from all the other noise and static.

a bit more advise ... quit poking around in your boyfriend's mind until you get your twists under control or else you'll end up inadvertantly sharing those twisted thoughts with him if you actually get him to hear you. you'll scare him and piss him off and ruin what could a be really cool intimate experience. i know it seems nifty that he notices your projections at all. negativity is sharp so gets through easier and it sets off the inner alarm. it's expedient and it's tempting to keep experimenting with it but using negativity to get his psy attention is a very bad idea. patience is a virtue.

um .. one more thing. you aren't the only one playing telepathy games. there are some people "in here/out there" who are REALLY good at it. just a heads up.

 

I never said that what you are experiencing isn't real or that you are crazy. I don't think that you can know for sure what the origins of what you are experiencing really are though.

Regardless of the origins of your experience, seeing a psychologist might help. Also, meditation could help.

 

um ... unless one is psychotic and totally out of touch with mundane reality why can't one know what's going on in ones own head? and if one can't know ones own mind what makes you think some shrink can know?

 

um ... because people can mis-atribute causation

the purpose of seeing a councilor is not necessarily so they can "know your mind", but to help you become better adjusted to your circumstances. yes, lots psychs might make assumptions about a person's mental state if they say that they can project thoughts, but if they know that you aren't interested in treating it as a medical condition, I think that a good councilor could help you find a way to be better at peace with your experience.

 

dude fine then I'll ask you nicely, please leave. You really aren't helping in the slightest. No matter how much you think you know me and my situation, you don't. Please be respectful and just stop

 

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May I suggest thinking out of your heart instead of your head? There is a heart-mind, and the 'twists' you're talking about are very much part of the head-mind.

 

there isn't any real difference between "head mind" and "heart mind". the "head mind" merely interprets the feelings of the "heart mind" and decides on how those feelings will be expressed. it would be the "head mind" that seeks the causes of the "twists" and determines what can be done to heal the causes and mitigate those "twists". it's called "self awareness".


in any case, it seems the OP was more interested in arguing with a thread "intruder" than discussing her problem. **shrug**

 

Was not going to say anything, but find myself here again.

When ever force, manipulation and seeking to over ride someones will, or thoughts.... by pushing your own agenda into, or on them has nothing to do with Respect, Responsibility and Personal Accountability for the gifts we all have within us.

If the proverbial shoe were on the others foot would you want thoughts pushed into your mind and personal space?

The end result is what you do to another will one day come back to roost in your own coup, or mind. In the end all loose.

When one comes from a place of Love and Sacredness this type of behavior is unacceptable and the one doing, or trying to do is labeled Not Trust Worthy. What a message to give to one you wish to be in a relationship with. This is also known as being a psychic bully.

 

oh don't know. if one never tried to make mind to mind contact then one would never know if such a thing were possible. i'm not suggesting that using the sharp edge of negativity to pry ones way into the another's mind is the way to go but IMO some gentle prodding to see if one can make a conscious two way connection isn't harmful and can be quite lovely if the prodded one responds with curiosity and a desire to further explore the depth of such an intimate relationship.

 

I agree its all the same mind. I just felt that using the heart-mind as distinct from the head-mind might allow the OP to see and feel the situation without the distractions of the rationalising head-mind.

It would also allow the OP to see and feel the truth of her relationship without the distractions of the 'twisted' feelings.

After 20+ years of psychic work of one kind and another, I'd say its best to take life as it is. We can only change stuff if its truly for the highest good of all concerned. Sure we can change stuff temporarily even if its not for the highest good. Then in my experience it all goes horribly wrong sooner or later.

Maybe it would be good if the OP found a partner who she can feel good about regardless of any psychic element. Maybe its none of my business

 

Good thoughts.

What I'm thinking is that this experience is a challenge to the relationship that also has the potential for much greater intimacy.

OhSoDreadful, what's your deepest desire for this relationship? Can you see any way that this current challenge might enable that desire?

It will require lots of communication, I believe, about stuff you might not otherwise share. That will put you two on more intimate terms.

It sounds like you think this negative stuff is not really "you." What if it were? Is it something to be ashamed of or scared of? What if you just accepted these negative thoughts as one possible way of being that you don't choose to express - and just laughed them off? I'm seeing your reaction and his reaction as being overly serious. You're both giving this phemomenon greater power by being upset about it.

Step one is for you to make peace with it. Then, in helping yourself, you'll be helping him as well.

I have to say, though - if he's letting stuff like this ruin his day, I'm thinking he has more serious issues to work through.

 

I totally agree with this. It's a fundamental condition of love and spirit not to interfere and force ones will on another. Probably the biggest spiritual lesson i ever learned ... to leave life alone.
You may feel your 'thought pushing' is harmless enough and i'm sure harm is the furthest thing from your mind, but for the recipient of this kind of 'psychic attack' it can be confusing at the least, and at the most, traumatic. Because you're messing with peoples heads. You'd feel invaded, like your own mind wasn't sacred, if you understood that someone was doing it to you. And also bear in mind the addage: "Sometimes when you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you."
The mind can be a jungle sometimes that you can simply get lost in and it often pays to just stay out of it. I agree with e7m8 who suggests doing things the normal way, we have mouths to speak with and ears to hear with ... why not use them?
There already is a perfect albeit unconcious psychic connection between you both and if it becomes naturally concious at any time then that's great, ... but it exists already so why force it? Let spirit choose the where and when and how, because it really does know best.
If you really want to practice 'being telepathic' with others then GET PERMISSION from them first.

 

Hi Dormouse

Yes, there is an intimate sharing that goes beyond words when two people share in mind. body, heart, and soul. And where there is this type of, and depth of sharing there is also Respect, Responsibility, and Accountability where Trust is reciprocated with a love and union that is hard to explain.

But when one tries to push their thoughts, actions, or feeling on another this becomes an attact one against another.

The OP was talking about Pushing thoughts...not an intimate sharing or agreement with another.