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kandahar, are you on the payroll of the propaganda machine?

 

The thing is it is the anti Mcdonalds (mcspotlight) propaganda ? what is it saying that Mcdonalds are not telling the truth ... ??. Well they are telling the truth , i am sure their are dozens of regulations they follow, and paperwork they fill in that say they are doing as they say.

I am saying that basing what you think on a commonly held belief , just because it fits your ideology is a bit ??. If you can prove what you say is true .. fair enough .

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/recycling/conferences/03awards/mcdonalds.htm

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/mgroups/viaprofiles_McDonald's.html

 

Inspiring commentary by Pear Tree Philo Electricbuddha splatter nimh...

Kandahar you bring up the interesting point that megaconglomerates start as small local businesses which end up being boycotted by "resentment of their success." Here's how I look at that situation. Think BIG. First we have to know where we want to go. What are we striving for? A good ideal is the best standard of living for the maximum number of people on the conditions of not hurting particular individuals or the environment in the process. Equality is a relevant concept here. So suppose you're a national figure with real power. You look over your nation and the big picture you're going to see is it's not perfect some places there's a surplus and other places there's a deficit. Your job is to smooth things out so some people aren't suffering and others wasteful. The task is too take economic power where it's not critical and put it where it is critical. So if you have a small business that grows and benefits society that's fine. But if/when it gets to the point that it is benefitting primarily itself and not society at large it's time for intervention. You don't intervene out of resentment. You do it to so that society as whole functions well. The same is true of boycotting. In a society that functions smoothly there's no need to boycott because the intervention happens when it should by responsible parties and things never reach the boycott phase.

WalMart is a case in point. It has low prices so everyone shops there. Then the local businesses can't survive. But the bargain prices are at the expense of its workers who have low wages and benefits and it's the only place left to get a job so it ends up creating a whole new class of poverty. "Rolling poverty". Plus when it's the only kid on the block it has the power to do whatever it wants. An example of an entity which has been successful but which reaches the point that it does not benefit society in the larger context.

Managing a nation is largely a matter of managing economic power and making sure it's distributed in a way that benefits society as a whole.

 

One would have to be pretty naive and or ignorant to not see out negative out comes that arise from these corporation’s.



Yes Mc Donald's may recycle 50% of there material toward there (happy meal boxes) and some container's. That only basic step's that should be absolute guide lines to every company "We and they should be recycling 100% of all reusable material" not just Mc Donald’s but you and me as every day consumers.



So I ask you.. Do you think that Mc Donald's intensions are to focus on the environments well being? Is Mc Donald’s focus on how much gas and oil consumption they are using for the transportation of there products? And what hormones and chemicals get put into the Food products. And I believe no, that is not there intension.



Their intension is to expand on their empire of money and superiority. Not about the environment or the effects that consequently come right back to us... But the Profit and $$$$$ is the main motive and drive for these corporation’s.



They will do this paperwork to fulfill the guide lines that "we" may or may not see as appropriate use of the resources, they will go out of there way to tell you what u wont to hear.

so we can continue with our rushed life and fall into there propaganda. While all the damage is being “swept under the carpet” and out of site out of mind.



Wall-mart Owns 25% of the U.S.A economy…. This just scares me a little bit
We need To make a conscious effort not to support these corporations.

This may fit my ideaology but i can tell you right now!!!
It make's me as a person, and as a consumer. feel a lot better and in a better state of mind, knowing im supporting community's and local farmer's rather then Thies corporation’s. Who's intent is only of greed. money. and power


There need’s to be a balance through out our lives.

 

Wow, that's a logical and rational rebuttal. Good job refuting all my points, I now see the light of your way.

 

I guess we disagree on when a business no longer benefits society. There's no reason that a business can't benefit both itself and society. Even if it provides mostly minimum wage jobs (like Wal-Mart), that's better than no jobs at all. People choose to work for blue-collar businesses because they feel that their labor is worth $6 an hour, or whatever the business pays. If they believe it is worth more than that, they'll look for a job elsewhere. Since both the employer and employee agree that the trade is fair (I'll work for one hour if you pay me $6) then I don't see why the government or boycott groups need to intervene. All those things would do, if successful, is hurt the business' profits and cause them to lay off workers, who will then have to look for another $6 an hour job.

I agree that it shouldn't be allowed to become a monopoly, but I don't think it's "the only kid on the block" just yet. There are still plenty of other businesses able to compete with Wal-Mart.

 

you didnt deny it. why should i wast my time debaiting with you if you're getting paid to say the things you're saying?

 

Ok: I'm not getting paid to say the things I'm saying.

 

It just gets a bit dull when its the same companys..

Smaller companys / 'local' shops i don't think have the worlds eyes starring at them so yes

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/mgroups/viaprofiles_McDonald's.html

some of the above , may just be for show, its not nothing though and it is almost above and beyond the call of duty in a way .

If small business (as a whole) were statisticaly anylsed for their 'good' quota i fear they would fall short .. it maybe because of economic struggle that bigger companys may put upon them ( i don't know about that one)...its a good excuse for them imho.


A percentage of Mcdonalds total profit goes to Israel and Zionist organizations (so some people say)..this is why they get a lot of grief. Because it is run by jews ??? Not from yourself i hasten to add.. just i think this is at the core and its business practices are picked apart and fed to anti globalisation etc etc groups to dismantle the organisation .

99% of companys purpose is for profit , thats the point i thought ?... i wonder how many jobs thay have created and training schemes etc they provide ?.


Nature nutures - human destroys. If & when Nature ventures vengeance - human perishes.

I am not completly naive, just mostly :&

 

Unilever also makes margarine. One brand name something like "Bertolli" -as if it was from the hands of an honest to goodness hardworking immigrant family.This brand is quite expensive comparred with butter.

 

Here is a good website on buying responsibly-

http://www.votewithyourdollar.com/

and here are some good places on-line to buy ecologically responsible, fair-trade items-

http://www.greenpages.org/

And here are places where you can buy Union made products-

http://www.unionlabel.org/

Perhaps it is better to be positive and think of where you ARE going to buy, instead of where you are not

 

Yesm you say it's about power and money, but you only tell people to boycot business that supported the Republicans, none that went Democratic

And for only buying localy, eventually as these stores made more money, they'd expand, people open business to make money, not to serve you.

 

That's right the Democrats are also about power and money but in the current circumstances they're headed generally the right directions whereas the Republicans are headed generally the wrong directions. I don't want one cent of my capital going to the Republicans as they currently are.

It's also correct that some, let us say most, people open businesses only to make money not to serve others. It's called immorality. As a consumer I patronize businesses both to serve myself and to try in some measure to serve others. Businesses can also be run with a moral dimension. So Wendys, which sees fit to give 93% of its political money to the immoral Republican Party, will not be seeing my face in their door anytime soon.

 

Kandahar I agree entirely that a business can benefit both itself and society but we may well disagree about when such an entity becomes a social burden. Basically I think that the determination should be made on an objective basis and given the US corporate situation in general things have been headed in the wrong direction for some time. Disparity between rich and poor is increasing. WalMart as I said has been judged by some to be an agent of "rolling poverty". My prediction also is that things are going to get a lot worse until we change course. Things really seem to be kind of falling apart.

I would also say that people work for $6 an hour not because they believe that is what their labor is worth but because there is no alternative or the alternative (no income at all) is worse. I don't think in most cases it's a matter of agreed fairness. I do also think alot of people have unfairly been led to believe that they deserve less. That's a BIG issue with me.

Kandahar yes there's also the question of when to intervene and OBVIOUSLY we're headed towards a debate about socialism vs capitalism and how much control there should be! (Except I'm probably not going to take the time to debate it at this particular place and time for extraneous reasons.) The possibilities I guess range all the way from total laissez faire capitalism to communism and I will say I'm really far to the left on this on which probably doesn't surprise anybody. The reason to intervene of course is not for the sake of exerting control but to make things better. I wouldn't deny there has to be a sense of reality -- but also one of morality.

 

Boycott This Corporation






getting away with something or other

 

I get the feeling there are some people on here who mean well enough, but just don't get what is really going on.

If you wan't to know the depth of anger that people have towards companies like Wal-Mart, go here-

http://www.sprawl-busters.com/

After the last election, voting with our wallets is one of the few options people have left.

 

And the Republican party is immoral why? Because they believe people have a right to run their business as they want and not punish business because they did things right and became huge corporations.