1 or 2 hits?

Eat both.

 

I definitely had tightness of breath on 3 hits and cold extremities.
And I didn't feel insane at all in my mind, just everything I would think of would lead to something else.
And I definitely got very pronounced tracers from my hand and stuff in the dark.
And I also had many fractal effects on three, which were very pronounced, and much less kaleidoscope stuff.
I had almost nothing for close eye visuals.
And on one hit the kaleidoscope patterns only happened once and it was on my jeans and it made my jeans look all moving and kaleidoscopic.
The really only other 'visual' I had on one was the fact that my friends yard of perfect snow looked like an ocean, and at a different point I thought it looked like mashed potatoes.

I'm almost sure now that before when I said my trips were too long that I was mistaking not being able to sleep as tripping. I think I wasn't actually sure when the actual 'trip' was over and the afterglow began, because it was such a gradual change.

 

Well then... My diagnosis is inconclusive.

LSD, I guess.

It's a vasoconstrictor too, but the effects don't scale with the dose, or not nearly as badly as DOx.

I guess in a nutshell, acid feels like it brings reality out a bit. DOx feels surreal, fake, bizarre. You think "this can't be real", not the classic acid "will this ever end". It's cartoony and has lots of sharp lines and vivid colours, plastic looks, etc. It feels like a caricature of psychedelia.

 

Your descriptions are dead on RooR. It's extremely easy to tell the difference between the two if you know for sure you've done real LSD, but it's hard to tease out a diagnosis from someone who isn't sure if they have.

 

:rofl: Cause no one has ever thought that on an acid trip

 

I don't know how to describe it better. By comparison, acid amplifys reality. Things may look funny, but it's still real. DOx is SURreal. The Hallucinations are a lot more vivid, and just THERE. Much more tangable, reach out and touch it. Some things can be three dimensional, like once I spent some time rolling in plaid wool blankets (about an hour) just loving the feelings and colors, the patterns on the blankets where full of spinning pinwheels that still matched the pattern, and general movement, crisscrossing sliding effects, and these patters where being projected out accross the air in three dimensions. My room mate was wearing a plaid shirt, and the pattern extended up his skin all over his face, but sort of as though it was part of a projected light show, glowing, but obviously glowing FROM his skin, not onto it.

Acid looks real. DOx looks like what the simpsons would illustrate psychedelic drugs to look like (they've had several scenes that I would associate with DOx, like when homer dosed springfield with peyote). If you don't believe me, all I can do is suggest you take it

Imagine the whole world made of strips of different coloured glowing play-doh, with some objects (and open spaces) covered in very intricate translucent gem-coloured/textured fractals

 

I would chalk it up to individual variability. I've seen some pretty surreal things on LSD and there is a wealth of 60's and 90's (LSD was popular in rave scene) music, art and literature you can appeal to as reference. Something pretty drastic and surreal must've happened to The Beatles going from songs like "Please Please Me" and "She loves you" to songs like "Lucy in the sky with Diamonds" and "I am the Walrus." Those are pretty damn surreal songs and the whole albums are pretty much.

I've already said I think I've taken a Dox compound before, Im sure some are stronger/different than others, my trip was not incredibly visual but it was pretty intense and kind of had a stimulating dreaminess to it. although the 2nd time I tried it I pretty much felt like I was tweaking with weird thoughts which was unenjoyable.

 

Do you get time loops on dox? Because I definitely got stuck in one of those at one point. But I did have the little fractal swirlys that would spin at rates that created 3d things, so I might have had DOx. Either way I will know pretty soon because Ill have some LSD that is definitely real from a vial, so I will be able to compare the experiences.

 

:coffee: Oy... If you say so.